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    people love to give to the government because they spend their money so wisely HUH

    I pay as little taxes as possible like most responsible people. I would rather give my money to my kids then the government!

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    people love to give to the government because they spend their money so wisely HUH

    I pay as little taxes as possible like most responsible people. I would rather give my money to my kids then the government!
    You have kids! Holy that's a scary thought.

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    I missed this thread somehow.

    I would like everyone who said they pay income taxes qualify that a little better.

    When you file your tax return, are you still paying taxes, or is your refund equal or more than what your paid in federal and/or state?

    Some people pay taxes out of every paycheck, then get even more back on their return because of things like EIC. These people are not paying taxes. they are using the government as a no interest savings account.

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    I got solar so I got tax credit Also we get alot of sun in AZ!
    I guess that is bad because I use it for my advantage! OH NO I guess it is a good thing I am not running for the President!

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    I got solar so I got tax credit Also we get alot of sun in AZ!
    I guess that is bad because I use it for my advantage! OH NO I guess it is a good thing I am not running for the President!

    Your beloved AZ Repug s protect the AZ electric utilities while screwing distributed solar users.

    This is how Repugs do "free market" implementation: We will screw any citizen that BigCorp pays us to screw.

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    I hate that as a solar user I have to pay more per kilowatt because I use less because APS SUCKS! They say it is only fair HORSE I PAID FOR SOLAR SO I WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY YOU
    JOHN MCCAIN SUCKS!
    Jeff flake sucks even more!
    I have to pay $25 -$35 in fees just to let them read my ing metter!

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    I missed this thread somehow.

    I would like everyone who said they pay income taxes qualify that a little better.

    When you file your tax return, are you still paying taxes, or is your refund equal or more than what your paid in federal and/or state?

    Some people pay taxes out of every paycheck, then get even more back on their return because of things like EIC. These people are not paying taxes. they are using the government as a no interest savings account.
    We always pay taxes in April - I refuse to give the govt a free loan/get refund. Hard for us to estimate taxes as my day trading is not a steady/consistent thing.

    I'd love to get solar panels but maybe it's not appropriate in Florida? (not a big thing here) - our electricity bill is in the $300s in the summer :-( even with a SEER 18 A/C unit and that's with the temp set at 80 and fans going.

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    "maybe it's not appropriate in Florida?"

    "(not a big thing here)"

    The referendum that Kock Bros, ALEC, FL Repugs have written is a huge LIE supported by people who don't understand the LIE, will screw rooftop solar customers forever in FL, will restrict the market, to protect the electric utilities.



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    Bouton's is a broken record again...

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    We always pay taxes in April - I refuse to give the govt a free loan/get refund. Hard for us to estimate taxes as my day trading is not a steady/consistent thing.
    I do the same think. I have W-4 set so I pay at the end of the year, instead of given the feds an interest free loan.

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    Bouton's is a broken record again...
    "Do Your Own Research" -- WC

    ... about the FL solar bull .

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    "maybe it's not appropriate in Florida?"

    "(not a big thing here)"

    The referendum that Kock Bros, ALEC, FL Repugs have written is a huge LIE supported by people who don't understand the LIE, will screw rooftop solar customers forever in FL, will restrict the market, to protect the electric utilities.


    I don't think my town will let people put them on top of the roofs. I guess they could go on the ground but one would need a big area with no trees around.

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    I don't think my town will let people put them on top of the roofs. I guess they could go on the ground but one would need a big area with no trees around.
    Rooftop solar is both logical and not really all that unattractive. Really not sure what the big deal is.

    Distributed power would make the grid a bit more stable.

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    Really not sure what the big deal is.
    the BIG DEAL is protecting the profits and investors of utilities, esp the profits of deregulated, for-profit utilities.

    There are technical problems for the grid, requiring investment (loss of profits for utilities) in managing a bi-directional current flow, metering, FIT accounting.

    But, of course, DEM govt in CA is forcing PGE, etc into acceptance of rooftop solar, so naturally, CA is OUT FRONT of USA yet again, while regressive, pro-business red/slave/Repug states are mostly trailing badly, esp those in the sun belt, eg, FL, TX.

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    Rooftop solar is both logical and not really all that unattractive. Really not sure what the big deal is.

    Distributed power would make the grid a bit more stable.
    When you buy in certain communities, you have to abide by their rules - paint the house certain colors, replace with tile (not shingle) roof, etc.

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    When you buy in certain communities, you have to abide by their rules - paint the house certain colors, replace with tile (not shingle) roof, etc.
    irrelevant, but keep trying, you'll keep being wrong, misinformed, uninformed.

    Any HOA association that blocks rooftop solar, which INCREASES a house's resale value, is really ed up, and in need of a homeowners' revolt.

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    When you buy in certain communities, you have to abide by their rules - paint the house certain colors, replace with tile (not shingle) roof, etc.
    Sometimes yes.

    Both laws and Declarations often make exceptions for solar. Ours does.

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    Distributed power would make the grid a bit more stable.
    Actually, no since sunshine isn't "stable".

    The grid will have to be made a lot smarter (investments!) to handle multi-directional power flows on top of base load.

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