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Tulsa Police Officer Shares Her Side of the Story
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tulsa-polic...ry?id=42243843
Watching these blacks acting like deranged baboons, is disgusting. THIS....is why they get treated like they do, will they ever figure this out?
Stop roaming the streets looking for trouble, cool selling drugs, cool walking around with a pistol in your pocket. Stop blaring that music that makes ya look stupid.
I don't give a damn what happened, no way in I'm out roaming the streets, why??? Never have figured that out. what is with that, we see it bad in the Middle East, all those guys just out in the streets......huh???
Tulsa Police Officer Shares Her Side of the Story
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tulsa-polic...ry?id=42243843
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Tulsa police officer Betty Shelby, identified as the officer who shot 40-year-old Terence Crutcher on Friday night, has offered her side of the story in the fatal encounter.
In dashcam and helicopter video released by police, Crutcher appears to have his hands up moments before he is shot by Shelby. Shelby's attorney, Scott Wood, maintains that Crutcher refused to follow more than two dozen commands and that he reached into the open window of the car before Shelby perceived a threat and shot him.
Here is Shelby's side of the story, according to her attorney and the police department.
Shelby Was Responding to a Different Incident Shelby and another officer were on their way to a domestic violence call when she came across the SUV, Jordan said.
On her way to that call, Shelby saw Crutcher standing in the middle of the road, looking down at the ground, Wood said, adding that she would have stopped and checked up on him had she not been on the other call.
She then saw the SUV parked in the middle of the street, obstructing traffic in both directions, Wood said. The engine was running when she got there, which she found odd because she assumed it was either disabled or broken down, he said. (Fabbs here. I would also like an explanation as to why it is way across the center line pointing to the other lane if broken down)
The Encounter Started More Than a Minute Before What Is Shown on the Released Video
Wood said "it's important to remember" that Shelby was on the scene with Crutcher for about a minute and a half before the start of the video clip released by police on Monday.
When Shelby approached the car, the doors were closed, and the windows were open, Wood said. She looked into the passenger's side to make sure no one was on the floor of the car, and as she was getting ready to move to the driver's side, she turned around and saw Crutcher walking toward her, Wood said.
Wood said that Shelby then said to Crutcher, "Hey, is this your car?"
Crutcher didn't respond, simply dropping his head while continuing to look at Shelby, "kind of under his brow," Wood said. Crutcher then began to put his hand into his left pocket, Wood said, adding that Shelby told Crutcher, "Hey, please keep your hands out of your pocket while you're talking to me. Let's deal with his car."
Crutcher did not respond, Wood said, so Shelby ordered him again to get his hand out of his pocket. He then pulled his hand away and put his hands up in the air, even though he was not instructed to do so, which Shelby found strange, Wood said.
Shelby tried to get Crutcher to talk to her, but he simply mumbled something unintelligible and stared at her, Wood said. He then turned and walked to the edge of the roadway and turned to look at her, his hands still in the air, Wood said. He put his hands down and started to reach into his pocket again, Wood said, and she ordered him again to get his hands out of his pocket.
At this point, Shelby, a drug recognition expert, believed Crutcher was "on something," Wood said, possibly PCP.
Shelby then radioed in that she had a subject "who is not following commands."
"You can kind of hear a degree of stress in her voice when she says that," Wood said.
Shelby then pulled out her gun and had Crutcher at gunpoint as she commanded him to get on his knees, Wood said. She pulled out a gun instead of a Taser because she thought he had a weapon, and she was planning to arrest him for being intoxicated in public and possibly obstructing the investigation, Wood said.
Shelby ordered Crutcher to stop multiple times as Crutcher walked toward the SUV with his hands up, Wood said.
But those orders cannot be heard in the audio from the dashcam video, which starts as another patrol car pulls up to the scene, showing Crutcher walking toward the SUV with his hands up as Shelby follows him, apparently with her weapon drawn and pointing at Crutcher.
the window was closed... she was scared, she needs to go to to jail.
Then why did he reach out to the window?
white muricans
It really is time to take women out of it. Who wants their mom walking around with a gun?
I;m riding with a woman cop, she is my partner. I get shot, I need to be dragged out of the way, I weigh 267, she weights 140, I;m in trouble.
tbh
If bodycam shows him reaching for his pocket or waistband, there won't be any charges.
Well if the body cam shows him holding a gun to her head, there won't be any either.
I think odds are decent that she walks either way, there have been worse shootings than this where the officers have gotten off. The Jonathan Farrell murder comes to mind.
24 year old, former college football player with no criminal history gets into serious car accident where his truck flips over. He goes out seeking help at a near by house. A woman thinks that he is trying to break in so she calls the cops and three officers arrive and after falling to taze him, shoot him twelve times. Cop walked after a hung jury where the essentially put the victim on trial. ESPN Outside the Lines did a podcast on it recently, pretty ed up.
So the window may have been closed, so what?
You Race-to-Judgements types haven't said what Crutcher was reaching for.
You tell us. If the window was closed, how are you sure he was reaching for anything?So the window may have been closed, so what?
You Race-to-Judgements types haven't said what Crutcher was reaching for.
he deserved to die because he dropped his arms
so much stupidity in this kind of comments
I've been put in a situation where 3 cops in Brazil pointed their gun at me because I crossed a control area with my headslamps on... (I did not know I was supposed to turn them off in this situation). Well I did not my pants but it was close, the stress made me acting nervous even though I was perfectly clear. I've seen a very good friend of mine panicking in a custom line to enter in the US, after having been disoriented by a serie of unusual questions, he started to become nervous and act nervous. For that he spent a couple of hours answering questions in a custom office. You never know how people react at stressful event.
Cops are ing trained and this is their job to keep their ing cool, regular people are not trained for this and some will panick and start to act nervous... this does not deserve to be shot.
Some cops in US are ing cowboys arrogant pricks using their little power on others to compensate for their small s.
But then you will always find a bunch of rednecks to justify US police no matter what they do.... disgusting
On a side note not saying that dude that was shot was a saint or something but he may have deserved to be judged not sentenced to death by a ing cop in the highway
working on dat post counts tbh...
I read someplace he reached inside the open window, and if you look at the video, there was something dropped next to him after they shot him.
Anyone know what he dropped?
Then I also read there was PCP inside the vehicle. I'll bet drug testing his blood will show him high on it.
I agree the cops should still be charged with murder or manslaughter.
so much stupidity in this kind of comments
I've been put in a situation where 3 cops in Brazil pointed their gun at me because I crossed a control area with my headslamps on... (I did not know I was supposed to turn them off in this situation). Well I did not my pants but it was close, the stress made me acting nervous even though I was perfectly clear. I've seen a very good friend of mine panicking in a custom line to enter in the US, after having been disoriented by a serie of unusual questions, he started to become nervous and act nervous. For that he spent a couple of hours answering questions in a custom office. You never know how people react at stressful event.
Cops are ing trained and this is their job to keep their ing cool, regular people are not trained for this and some will panick and start to act nervous... this does not deserve to be shot.
Some cops in US are ing cowboys arrogant pricks using their little power on others to compensate for their small s.
They are paid for the risk, and shouldn't shoot just because someone causes them to pee their panties.
There meed to be clear danger, before their fire their weapons.
I'll say it again, as long as black men bail on their families black people stand no chance. Cops are simply fed up with the gangs, drugs, weapons, the disrespect they see coming from the black community. If dad was around to control the boy where are the gangs, the drug selling the roaming street thuggery.
Mom tells the boy to sit down, how will she make him, while dad would sit his ass down.
No way in my son Mason could have been in a gang, sold drugs without me knowing it and since I know it it ain't happening if I had to lock him up in his room.
At the very least, the first step in dealing with a conflict like this shouldn't be lethal force; I'm at a loss to explain how one officer managed to pull and discharge a taser -- which would seem to be at least a more appropriate weapon in that particular cir stance -- while the other went directly to lethal force.
No matter what drugs Mr. Crutcher was on, no matter how good or bad he was as a person, and no matter how combative he was, until he actually posed a real threat to the officers, the introduction of lethal force into the equation should be questioned. As I've said elsewhere, I think the most meaningful step that can be taken to start to remedy this particular problem is to revisit our laws and policies regarding the use of lethal force by police officers; if an officer is going to resort to lethal force, it should be based (as you say, Wild Cobra) on something much more solid than conjecture, and if the standard for actually using lethal force hasn't been met, I think officers should face prosecution and called to account for their actions. None of that will ever happen because the political sides are too entrenched to ever agree to anything resembling a reasonable compromise on this, so the cycle will continue. But if there's an immediate solution that doesn't require changes of hearts and minds, it can be in limiting the use of lethal force and ensuring accountability for those who exceed those limits.
Reaching into the window is one thing but since it looked somewhat rolled up, he would have had to REALLY reach in there to grab anything.
He was either stalled on the road or tripping balls. Either way, not worth killing the dude.
By looking at the picture.
Might have just wanted to put his hands near the roof of the car. As if to say to the cops "I am assuming the Search Me position."
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