Astros vs Cardinals

**TexasAggie2005** · 10-13-2005

By what standard is a .299 OBP decent? I suppose compared to pinch hitting with a pitcher, Jose is the choice, but you've got a Hall of Famer on the bench who has delivered in key situations even since coming back from his most recent injury.

If I'm going to go down, I want to go down with the best option... Not Jose Vizcaino. If Jeff Bagwell bats and grounds out, you wouldn't hear anyone say "Damn, we shoulda put Vizcaino up there."

And Bagwell's 3 for 12 since he came back with a 0.333 OBP and a 0.250 slugging percentage. I love the guy, but I don't know that he's all that useful at this point. Especially not when you still need a couple of hits to tie it up. Bagwell wasn't going to put it out of the park. He doesn't have the power. At least Vizcaino's got wheels.

**Marcus Bryant** · 10-13-2005

Not that you should reasonably expect a 18 inning game when you are tied late but still, taking him out is hard to defend.

Game might've been over soon in the extra innings if Berkman was left in.

**Spurminator** · 10-13-2005

I don't expect him to put it out of the park, I just wanted to get to the top of the order. Pinch run Viz if you have to.

**T Park** · 10-13-2005

We OWN Isringhausen though

If Eckstein throws to second a little calmer, no runs get scored yesterday.

He gave up one bloop hit into left field, and a infield fielders choice (wich would it have been had eckstein not hurried the throw)

Izzy looked good for Izzy last night.

Izzy is not shutdown, but hes still a top 8 closer in the league.

**TexasAggie2005** · 10-13-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

I don't expect him to put it out of the park, I just wanted to get to the top of the order. Pinch run Viz if you have to.

Bagwell's no better of a hitter than Vizcaino right now. The guy's still hurt pretty bad. And if you pinch run Vizcaino on a Bagwell hit, you just burned through two guys for virtually no benefit.

Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Not that you should reasonably expect a 18 inning game when you are tied late but still, taking him out is hard to defend.

Game might've been over soon in the extra innings if Berkman was left in.

And if Berkman had been thrown out on a hit, everyone would be talking about Garner being an idiot. Berkman's SLOW, incredibly slow. And has a tendency to forget what he's supposed to be doing on the basepaths (and in left field, for that matter). I have my disagreements with Garner from time to time, but I don't fault him here. You get a guy in scoring position, you do your best to put the game away. If he'd pinch run for Berkman on first base, I might agree with you. But, it's reasonable to assume the game has a good chance of being over by the time Berkman's spot comes back up.

**TexasAggie2005** · 10-13-2005

Originally Posted by T Park

If Eckstein throws to second a little calmer, no runs get scored yesterday.

He gave up one bloop hit into left field, and a infield fielders choice (wich would it have been had eckstein not hurried the throw)

Izzy looked good for Izzy last night.

Izzy is not shutdown, but hes still a top 8 closer in the league.

Isringhausen's good ......... against everyone else. How many saves has he blown against the Astros in the past couple years?

**Trainwreck2100** · 10-13-2005

Stupid ass Berkman swinging at that .

**Marcus Bryant** · 10-13-2005

Get off the plate, !

**Jimcs50** · 10-13-2005

OMG!!!

Jim Edmonds is the man.

That catch was one of the best that I have seen this year.

**Jimcs50** · 10-13-2005

Pujols goes yard.

2-1 Astros

**Spurminator** · 10-13-2005

Speaking of walking a little slow to first after a homerun........

**Jimcs50** · 10-13-2005

Roy was dominant in the 7th inning...Burke made the mistake in his positioning, giving up the double on what should have been a fly out. Roy threw heat and got out of the inning w/o any damage.

Lidge time in the 8th.

**Jimcs50** · 10-13-2005

Burke gets another RBI!!!!

I think we have our DH in the World Series...yes?

**Spurminator** · 10-13-2005

Lane looks like this postseason.

(Come on mojo)

Oops, guess I'm late... Forgot I was watching it on DVR delay...

**Jimcs50** · 10-13-2005

Sanders is hurt. Man he hit the ground with his head hard...you know he has a concussion.

**Marcus Bryant** · 10-13-2005

4-1 now on the triple by Everett. Sanders' jump into the warning track fails.

**Spurminator** · 10-13-2005

Looked like he landed on his tailbone.

Ouch.

**Spurminator** · 10-13-2005

That was a huge inning. If anything happens, by the time the Cards get enough activity on the bases to tie the game, they'll be at the bottom of the order.

**Jimcs50** · 10-13-2005

Astros are 143-1 when leading by 2 runs in the 8th inning the last 2 yrs.

IT IS OVER!!!

**Horry For 3!** · 10-13-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

Looked like he landed on his tailbone.

Ouch.

He also hit his head on the ground hard, you know he has a concussion.

**Jimcs50** · 10-13-2005

It Is Over!!!!!

**T Park** · 10-13-2005

Congrats to the Stros.

Fantastic game by Oswalt, fantastic games by Burke and others.

First time since 03 a road team has won.

**TexasAggie2005** · 10-13-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Burke gets another RBI!!!!

I think we have our DH in the World Series...yes?

Should we be lucky enough to get to the WS, either Bagwell DH's or Burke starts in left and Lamb DH's. Honestly, I'd go with the latter.

**Spurminator** · 10-13-2005

I bench Lane at this point.

**Jimcs50** · 10-13-2005

Glad we got off the schnide with that 0-14 when Astros have runners in scoring position...that could have stayed in their heads even at home.

The Astros are going to be flying home without their plane tonight.....great win for them.

That 2-0 series against the Cards 2 wks ago really worked wonders for their confidence down the stretch, carrying over into this series.

TPark, your Cards have a chance, but I will bet any amt that the Astros have won this series.

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