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    My god soccer is the most overrated in history.
    Not as overrated as rugby kent

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    Some of the best highlights in baseball, like a slick defensive play in the infield, an acrobatic catch and throw from the outfield, or a stolen base, are not dependent on scoring. They would still be exciting even if they didn't keep score at all.

    Floptrot's highlights: skinnyfat twink jogs around, pukes, gets the ball, pukes again, misses the goal, game ends 0-0. Once every five years: skinnyfat twink jogs around, pukes, gets the ball, pukes again, actually kicks it into the net, fans lose their minds from shock and confusion. Wow, what an amazing "sport" you have there.


    To be fair, soccer does probably have the best highlights out of any sport in the world, for all the wrong reasons of course.

    So programmed to flop, this player even did it during a free kick.



    This one did it during a celebration:









    That's it and that's all.


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    well at least you can see the ball in soccer

    I mean nobody watching baseball is able to see the damn ball when there is an action, dude makes his move you have to wait to know if he hit the ball or not. Without replay you see but then don't ask why fatty fans go to stadium and spend their time eating and drinking they have no clue of whats going on.

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    well at least you can see the ball in soccer

    I mean nobody watching baseball is able to see the damn ball when there is an action, dude makes his move you have to wait to know if he hit the ball or not. Without replay you see but then don't ask why fatty fans go to stadium and spend their time eating and drinking they have no clue of whats going on.
    No prob seeing the ball here (all at game speed):






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    oh yeah on tv you can see it somethimes, in the stadium tho

    but even on TV sometimes you cannot see


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    oh yeah on tv you can see it somethimes, in the stadium tho

    but even on TV sometimes you cannot see

    Kind of a bad choppy gif there.

    I do agree moonshots can be hard to see, but that's what's kind of cool. You hear the crack of the bat, the ball rockets off, the crowd roars, and you don't wear that er is landing.


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    Baseball has very minimal strategy or approach. You can change your pitcher around or counter with batters with specific pitchers but the reality is that..its a pretty stagnant sport.

    Sports that have players continously moving require in depth planning with a gazillion ways tonplay the game. Sometimes when you watch a team that relies on the flanks, against a team that plays a middle 4-1-4-1 formation...

    It almost feels like the teams are playing different sports.


    Baseball strategy relies heavily on statistcal data or chance. Its pretty dumb as far tactical diversity is concenrned.

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    Hockey lack of fame in the US might indicate that American viwers in general love slow paced games with minimal attention span. Games like Soccer, you cant afford to put your eyes down. You need to be constantly watching to get a read of the game.

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    Man. Unless it was a championship deciding game, I'd lay on the field until they took me off with a stretcher.

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    Always wondered why hockey isnt as popular and it looks like its losing even more popularity. But i realized compare to baseball and Commercial ball and evem Basketball..its a lot more free flowing.

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    Baseball has very minimal strategy or approach. You can change your pitcher around or counter with batters with specific pitchers but the reality is that..its a pretty stagnant sport.

    Sports that have players continously moving require in depth planning with a gazillion ways tonplay the game. Sometimes when you watch a team that relies on the flanks, against a team that plays a middle 4-1-4-1 formation...

    It almost feels like the teams are playing different sports.


    Baseball strategy relies heavily on statistcal data or chance. Its pretty dumb as far tactical diversity is concenrned.
    You're confusing tactics with strategy. Yeah, baseball is essentially a showdown between the pitcher and batter. Comparing it to a goal sport is dumb. Expecting goal sport tactics from baseball is dumb. You like goal sports the best, I get that. I find most of them derivative, which is why baseball is a nice change from "put ball in goal sport number 67478."

    Basketball also isn't very deep tactically, especially the modern game with it emphasis on binary drive/shoot 3 tactics. This is further proven by the fact that head coaches have little-to-no influence on win percentage.

    But on the roster building side of the equation (long term strategy), baseball makes basketball look shallow.

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    Always wondered why hockey isnt as popular and it looks like its losing even more popularity. But i realized compare to baseball and Commercial ball and evem Basketball..its a lot more free flowing.
    Because Americans aren't as "obsessed" with this silly "free flowing" concept as foreigners are. Furthermore, cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world and it's far, far slower than baseball.

    Watching a group of players run around a field trying to put balls in goals gets old after awhile.

    I'm with you complaining about commercials, but I don't need "constant running around" to be entertained.

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    You're confusing tactics with strategy. Yeah, baseball is essentially a showdown between the pitcher and batter. Comparing it to a goal sport is dumb. Expecting goal sport tactics from baseball is dumb. You like goal sports the best, I get that. I find most of them derivative, which is why baseball is a nice change from "put ball in goal sport number 67478."

    Basketball also isn't very deep tactically, especially the modern game with it emphasis on binary drive/shoot 3 tactics. This is further proven by the fact that head coaches have little-to-no influence on win percentage.

    But on the roster building side of the equation (long term strategy), baseball makes basketball look shallow.
    And that's partly the reason why Baseball lost its place to commerciall ball. I hate commerical ball far more than I do baseball, but even that sport has different ways to approach an offense defense.

    It's the fact that it's a batter vs. Pitcher game thay makes it so unpopular to many. I mean geez, the japs didn't have a soccer league till 95 and the national team gets significantly more coverage than their baseball team.

    Roster building in baseball is maybe a hair more important, but that's partly because they play 200 games a year. The truth is, it's more like the pitcher roster buildup. Essentially the sports overall defense is dumbdown to finding the best combination of pitchers. There's nothing deep about that.

    In Modern post 92 Soccer, every player has to defend and attack. That creates a better team atmosphere that majority of people love.


    the MLS as tyv as it is..Is now asking for 150 million dollar club entries.

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    Hockey lack of fame in the US might indicate that American viwers in general love slow paced games with minimal attention span. Games like Soccer, you cant afford to put your eyes down. You need to be constantly watching to get a read of the game.
    Maybe for you, because you love the sport above all, but I can put my eyes down from soccer for minutes at a time and the game will still be 0-0 with the two teams still passing (and losing) the ball around the midfield.

    "Well, you're not watching it carefully enough. If you did, you'd appreciate the tactical battle going on!"

    Same thing can be said for any sport. In football, there's tons of things going on presnap. In baseball, every pitch is a "tactical" setup for the next pitch or a "tactical" response to the count, men on base situation, score, inning, etc.

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    Because Americans aren't as "obsessed" with this silly "free flowing" concept as foreigners are. Furthermore, cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world and it's far, far slower than baseball.

    Watching a group of players run around a field trying to put balls in goals gets old after awhile.

    I'm with you complaining about commercials, but I don't need "constant running around" to be entertained.
    Cricket is only the second most popular numberbwise. That's largely thanks to huge populations from India and Pakistan that is solely a cricket nation. Soccer as far as viwership is concerned is pretty popular in india. Not sure about Pakistan.

    Baskebtall beats out cricket as far diversity in nations who take it seriously. It would probably be 2nd in "numbers" if it wasnt sharing audience with Soccer in China.

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    Maybe for you, because you love the sport above all, but I can put my eyes down from soccer for minutes at a time and the game will still be 0-0 with the two teams still passing (and losing) the ball around the midfield.

    "Well, you're not watching it carefully enough. If you did, you'd appreciate the tactical battle going on!"

    Same thing can be said for any sport. In football, there's tons of things going on presnap. In baseball, every pitch is a "tactical" setup for the next pitch or a "tactical" response to the count, men on base situation, score, inning, etc.
    That's a silly reply.

    You can't put your eyes down in soccer because you can't read the tactical inputs of a free flowing game without fully investing your time in it. That's not a problem that Baseball will ever have. You can look at a baseball team pitching roster and you can already tell how teams will plan out.

    There's a reason why baseball is the most popular and most financially successfull betting sports. It's an easier sport to "read". Free flwoing sports have significantly more unpredictibility variables.

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    And that's partly the reason why Baseball lost its place to commerciall ball. I hate commerical ball far more than I do baseball, but even that sport has different ways to approach an offense defense.

    It's the fact that it's a batter vs. Pitcher game thay makes it so unpopular to many. I mean geez, the japs didn't have a soccer league till 95 and the national team gets significantly more coverage than their baseball team.

    Roster building in baseball is maybe a hair more important, but that's partly because they play 200 games a year. The truth is, it's more like the pitcher roster buildup. Essentially the sports overall defense is dumbdown to finding the best combination of pitchers. There's nothing deep about that.

    In Modern post 92 Soccer, every player has to defend and attack. That creates a better team atmosphere that majority of people love.


    the MLS as tyv as it is..Is now asking for 150 million dollar club entries.
    No.

    Japan's defeat of the Kingdom of the Netherlands on March 10th was the most viewed sporting event in Japan in the last 12 months. The game registered a 22.1 rating and a 43 share out-rating all 2012 Olympics coverage and World Cup Qualifying matches.
    And the Koshien high school tournament just ended. 50K plus Japanese turning out high school baseball of all-things.

    Wrong again. In a sport where runs are so important, it is of mammoth importance that you find defenders who have the speed, arm, skill combination to turn probable hits and runs into outs. Furthermore, having the best player in baseball doesn't mean . In basketball, it's basically "sign Lebron, make playoffs." NBA players don't need to go through any kind of development at the lower levels after being drafted. When's the last time a number one pick started in the D-League? In baseball, it's not uncommon for the number 1 pick to spend years in the minors. Player development is exponentially harder and more unpredictable.

    And where are you getting the idea baseball is unpopular to so many? Because of people on web forums complaining about pace of play? This is from the Harris Poll, which is pretty much the gold standard poll for this:



    It's growing in Canada:

    http://www.wbsc.org/news/canada-base...ss-the-nation/

    And it's still obviously strong in its Latin and Asian strongholds.

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    Anthoer beautiful thing about soccer and why it is the most popular sport and is still the fastest growing sport in the world is that...The game rapidly evolves. Teams are always trying out new formation.

    Except for the CB and the GK. Not every position is essential, you can choose however and whatever way you wanna play. Don't want a CF and just want to populate the midfield, go ahead. We will counter with less defenders and populate our forwards.

    Its those tactical diversity that makes it so fun to follow.

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    That's a silly reply.

    You can't put your eyes down in soccer because you can't read the tactical inputs of a free flowing game without fully investing your time in it. That's not a problem that Baseball will ever have. You can look at a baseball team pitching roster and you can already tell how teams will plan out.

    There's a reason why baseball is the most popular and most financially successfull betting sports. It's an easier sport to "read". Free flwoing sports have significantly more unpredictibility variables.
    What's that supposed to mean? That their success will be predictable depending on the rotation?

    Sure, but not more than any other sport. Soccer club gets best players, usually has success. NBA team gets good players, usually has success.

    I also don't see how unpredictability correlates to tactical depth. I've seen soccer teams completely dominate another "tactically" and the dominated team wins through a fluke goal.

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    No.



    And the Koshien high school tournament just ended. 50K plus Japanese turning out high school baseball of all-things.

    Wrong again. In a sport where runs are so important, it is of mammoth importance that you find defenders who have the speed, arm, skill combination to turn probable hits and runs into outs. Furthermore, having the best player in baseball doesn't mean . In basketball, it's basically "sign Lebron, make playoffs." NBA players don't need to go through any kind of development at the lower levels after being drafted. When's the last time a number one pick started in the D-League? In baseball, it's not uncommon for the number 1 pick to spend years in the minors. Player development is exponentially harder and more unpredictable.

    And where are you getting the idea baseball is unpopular to so many? Because of people on web forums complaining about pace of play? This is from the Harris Poll, which is pretty much the gold standard poll for this:



    It's growing in Canada:

    http://www.wbsc.org/news/canada-base...ss-the-nation/

    And it's still obviously strong in its Latin and Asian strongholds.
    World cup qualifying ...

    Japan has always been a sure shot finalist. Why would it be compared to that.

    Your graph has obesseball lose a significant %. In fact almost 35% of its popularity has been lost since 85

    I wouldn't trust the forumla of a research that has pro soccer over College basketball.

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    Anthoer beautiful thing about soccer and why it is the most popular sport and is still the fastest growing sport in the world is that...The game rapidly evolves. Teams are always trying out new formation.

    Except for the CB and the GK. Not every position is essential, you can choose however and whatever way you wanna play. Don't want a CF and just want to populate the midfield, go ahead. We will counter with less defenders and populate our forwards.

    Its those tactical diversity that makes it so fun to follow.
    Basketball has all of that.

    Most goal sports have all of that, from field hockey to ice hockey to rugby. I know you wax poetic about soccer because you love it so much, but it isn't any more or less interesting from that perspective than any other goal sport. You could write dissertations on the complexity of American football. But you won't like it at the end of the day because of the start-stop nature of it, even without the commercials. On the same token, I don't enjoy rugby, even though it "flows," because it's a monotonous lateral fest that winds up a chaotic looking cluster more often than not.

    I don't dislike soccer. I'm just indifferent to it. It's yet another goal sport. I already watch basketball and sometimes football when the commercials aren't pissing me off. I'll watch the NHL playoffs. I don't need to add another one.

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    World cup qualifying ...

    Japan has always been a sure shot finalist. Why would it be compared to that.

    Your graph has obesseball lose a significant %. In fact almost 35% of its popularity has been lost since 85

    I wouldn't trust the forumla of a research that has pro soccer over College basketball.
    "The, um, data is wrong!"

    Such a predictable reply.

    College basketball is completely irrelevant until March Madness. And why do you doubt the 4% number for soccer? The Harris methods seeks a sample that is representative of the nation's demographics. Latinos make up like 18% of the population, so all you need is a slice of them. You also assume that favorite sport is ONLY sport followed. Many football fans are usually baseball fans. Many people watch March Madness despite not caring about college basketball the rest of the year.

    The NBA actually had the largest peak-to-valley percentage drop. Right after Jordan retired. Proves my point. Most people don't care about the NBA in the States. They care about Lebron and maybe Steph.

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    "The, um, data is wrong!"

    Such a predictable reply.

    College basketball is completely irrelevant until March Madness. And why do you doubt the 4% number for soccer? The Harris methods seeks a sample that is representative of the nation's demographics. Latinos make up like 18% of the population, so all you need is a slice of them. You also assume that favorite sport is ONLY sport followed. Many football fans are usually baseball fans. Many people watch March Madness despite not caring about college basketball the rest of the year.

    The NBA actually had the largest peak-to-valley percentage drop. Right after Jordan retired. Proves my point. Most people don't care about the NBA in the States. They care about Lebron and maybe Steph.
    Oh ok. Let me trust your survey.

    At least we can now agree that baseball lost 35% of its hardcore fans.

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    Holy THREE walk offs? Instead of scratching their balls and eating sunflower seeds, they WALKED? That's gotta be a calories burned record
    You guys are so stupid!

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    You guys are so stupid!
    Ward vs Kovalev on June my .

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