I will play my best basketball when I return in January 2018- Parker

[DMC]

I don't know where you got that first part from. But I agree with you in principle about culture and corporate knowledge. The piece you're leaving out is skills. I don't think Patty is suitable as a starting PG, and he's too short to be a 2 guard. Several others here have said the same thing, but that's an opinion and we aren't going to convince each other.

What I don't think is debatable is that CP3 is a lot stronger than Patty. He can fight through contact better, and bounce off of contact and finishes much better. That's a pretty big thing when it comes to the playoffs, where the refs allow a lot more contact. It's also pretty well understood with (unbiased) NBA fans that Paul is a much better defender than Patty. Also a big deal in the playoffs.

I have my doubts about CP3's personality/ego. But if the Spurs are going to take it back to that next level, I think they have to have a stronger starting PG than Patty. And if they have to make that change, this year is by far the best time to do it. Yeah, they would be giving up some corporate knowledge. But the skills upgrade more than makes up for it, IMO. I'm not disagreeing with the idea you're talking about. I just think it's worth the trade-off to upgrade the point, if they get that chance. I sure as wouldn't want them to make a lateral move, skills-wise.

6 years with the Spurs. He started in 2011-2012 season. I said if we get a Chris Paul level player I'd be fine with the trade, but not some low level guy. Chris Paul, as good as he is, has a lot of baggage and ego to go along with his inability to stay healthy in the post season.

[DaBears]

Sounds like he'll be wearing BiG Baller Brand shoes too. He's either delusional or wants to let the team know he's not retiring. Too much $$ to leave on table. I think he's done. No one in the NBA to my knowledge has ever come back from this sort of injury. It finished Barkley.

** What is he suppose to say.. " I'm done, and career is over. but as a parting gift let me collect my 14+mil on the way out".. --He knows he cannot come back better than prior to the injury.

[MultiTroll]

Team player.

[coachmac87]

** What is he suppose to say.. " I'm done, and career is over. but as a parting gift let me collect my 14+mil on the way out".. --He knows he cannot come back better than prior to the injury.

This. Let's also not forget there's CP3 speculation swirling and he's a compe or so he's gonna be optimistic.....even if it's still early injury process where Tony really doesn't know the truth going forward

[Atl Spur]

Tony is done and living in the past only clouds your vision. Give him a champions exit but do not let nostalgia govern over the business of the franchise. Time will run out for all of us......... I wish him the best but we must move on.

[Prose]

Sounds like he'll be wearing BiG Baller Brand shoes too. He's either delusional or wants to let the team know he's not retiring. Too much $$ to leave on table. I think he's done. No one in the NBA to my knowledge has ever come back from this sort of injury. It finished Barkley.

i believe barkley tore one of the quad muscle but yes i get your point bad injury

[MultiTroll]

Tony is done and living in the past only clouds your vision. Give him a champions exit but do not let nostalgia govern over the business of the franchise. Time will run out for all of us......... I wish him the best but we must move on.

The at ude of "Player above team." has already cost 'Chips.
Needs to be stopped yesterday.

[tholdren]

Pau had a ruptured quadriceps tendon when the Spurs signed him? I didn't know. My bad.

No but he was terrible.

[Brazil]

I cannot wait to witness dat amount of salt poured on this board when Parker is gonna be back in January just in time to be starter again in the POs...

[objective]

Bogut was there 4 years. He was hardly baked into the culture. Patty has 6 with the Spurs and he's still culturally on the fringe. Warriors signed Kevin Durant. Do you think Paul George or Chris Paul are coming to the Spurs? If so I'd be all for releasing Mills. Otherwise, you'll just have a new meh level player trying to fit into the system.

If Manu retires and Tony isn't there most of the season, Patty is the vet on the team, same number of years as Kawhi Leonard. Only Green has been there longer but even then Danny is hardly a floor general. You cannot expect Murray to be a floor general and lead the team. Kawhi is too introverted to rally the troops, just leads by example.

Unless you want wholesale slaughter of the team, you're not improving by moving Patty out for some washed up player from the bottom of the list.

Bogut absolutely was a huge part of the culture and with Green made them a tougher, dirtier team. He was the starter, not some backup scrub for his first two years like Mills. He was a much bigger part of their team than Mills. You ignored Barnes. They weren't the only champs dropped, they dumped Speights and Barbosa too.

, look at all the new faces they have playing in the playoffs: Durant, West, McGee, McCaw are all new. They might lose Livingston this summer too, doesn't really matter.

The Spurs culture was Duncan. That's it. Maybe Manu, maybe some Parker thrown in. But they didn't lose their culture when Avery left. Or when Robinson retired. Or when Malik Rose was traded. It was Duncan. And it is and will be Kawhi.

Mills doesn't matter any more than Avery or Malik or Finley. Refusing to upgrade team talent for 'culture' is what sabotaged the team after 07, they just had to bring back their culture guys like Vaughn, Oberto and Finley.

[dabom]

I cannot wait to witness dat amount of salt poured on this board when Parker is gonna be back in January just in time to be starter again in the POs...

Brah...

[Brazil]

Brah...

gonna be glorious

[objective]

Another thing about culture and winning:

Very little culture continuity on the 03 le team. Only guys with more than 3 years were Duncan, Robinson, and Rose.

3/5ths of the starters and 6th man wing had 1 year or less experience in the system, and ditto for the some other key back ups

Bowen, 1 year going into 02/03
Parker, 1 year
Jackson, 1 year where he almost never played and was inactive most of the time
Manu, 0 years
Willis, 0 years primary back up center
Speedy, 0 years, primary back up point guard
Kerr, 3* years, wasn't on team the prior season
Smith, 1 year
Ferry, 2 years
Bateer, 0 years

[tonight...you]

gonna be glorious

My bruddah and I'm not even a Parker-stan. You are da shiz-nice.

[SASdynasty!]

In b4 Parker averages 16 PPG on 53% in the playoffs again against the best 2 PG defenders in the league.

[tonight...you]

In b4 Parker averages 16 PPG on 53% in the playoffs again against the best 2 PG defenders in the league.

Don't think it will happen... but I wouldn't be upset by that at all.
#Proviso: That Murray has improved exponentially (which I hope for, but don't count on).

[DMC]

Bogut absolutely was a huge part of the culture and with Green made them a tougher, dirtier team. He was the starter, not some backup scrub for his first two years like Mills. He was a much bigger part of their team than Mills. You ignored Barnes. They weren't the only champs dropped, they dumped Speights and Barbosa too.

, look at all the new faces they have playing in the playoffs: Durant, West, McGee, McCaw are all new. They might lose Livingston this summer too, doesn't really matter.

The Spurs culture was Duncan. That's it. Maybe Manu, maybe some Parker thrown in. But they didn't lose their culture when Avery left. Or when Robinson retired. Or when Malik Rose was traded. It was Duncan. And it is and will be Kawhi.

Mills doesn't matter any more than Avery or Malik or Finley. Refusing to upgrade team talent for 'culture' is what sabotaged the team after 07, they just had to bring back their culture guys like Vaughn, Oberto and Finley.

You don't get a culture from basically 4 years of playing. You get a system. Warriors have a system, they don't have a culture, not yet. Regardless, Bogut's 6pts and 7rbs a game are hardly "culture" material. His moving screens and defense was part of their scheme, but they haven't had a head coach or consistent team long enough to have a culture.

So explain the Warriors culture. I can explain the Spurs culture. It wasn't Duncan. Robinson allowed Tim to be the man, that was part of the culture there, to play unselfish ball and for the coach to be able to run the team without needing approval from a player.

[objective]

So Mills is the Spurs culture, huh? Yeah, makes total sense. Mills is just like Robinson not demanding more touches.

And if the 76ers offer Mills 4/55, the Spurs need to offer 4/60?

Or 4/70?

[duncan2k5]

Parker needs to retire...He was one of the worst start I point guards this year...He was even inconsistent in the playoffs...He had some great games, but he also had absolutely trash games

[therealtruth]

I'll take for him to just play as good as Speedy Claxton.

[TheDoctor]

I'll take for him to just play as good as Speedy Claxton.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He says January but the Spurs say late Feb (as does the article). Parker really might sense his time with the Spurs close to an end so he wants to convince them not to move on.

More likely it's that prognosis this far out come in ranges and whereas the Spur's brass are conservative and give the far end of the range, Parker is pushing for the front end of the range.

[Chillen]

The Parker injury ruined any NBA le hopes the Spurs had this season and it also brought on an injury bug (Leonard, Lee). It was the first domino to fall, now a healthy Spurs team could have really given the Warriors fits but it wasn't to be.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

The Parker injury ruined any NBA le hopes the Spurs had this season and it also brought on an injury bug (Leonard, Lee). It was the first domino to fall, now a healthy Spurs team could have really given the Warriors fits but it wasn't to be.

I disagree, Spurs looked just fine without Parker and were decimating the Warriors in front of their home crowd. Parker is a role player, role player injuries dont end your le hopes.

[DaBears]

Agree'd, Parkers absence would have felt the same had it been Danny Greens instead. Up 23 on the downward slope of the 3rd quarter & your top O & D man goes down, that is the killer... What hurt the most after the glass ankle shattered was we no longer had a guy who could break down the defense and cause the D to collapse free'in up someone.