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...and Kawhi
With Green, we are too easy for the elite teams to guard...Why do u think Green stinks it up in the playoffs vs certain teams? They run him off the 3 point line, and that leads to disaster...Everyone on the warriors have a second capability when you run them off the line...They all can dribble and pass
...and Kawhi
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Tony is a future HOF. He did great in the Memphis series, poured his heart out. Spurs will never salary dump him.
If he agreed to a vet minimum deal I could live with that. But tony wont agree to a vet min salary for three seasons
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If he wants a token roster spot on a vet min deal then thats fine. Otherwise, its hamstringing the spurs chances to tie up money in tony considering his age and the injury.
Tony off the bench as a facilitator i can see. He can still hit big shots. But nothing more than 6-7 million a year contract.
He pretty much crushed off ball duties this playoff and that was against starting level talent. Also, what if like Manu it was simply for a 5 minute a game role?
The point of my statement is no one knows anything but makes a ton of assumptions.
The Spurs are either going to be in win-now mode or loyal mode. There's no way Pop can think keeping Parker's semi-dead $15 Million makes more basketball sense than keeping or re-signing anyone else. So either he keeps Parker and accepts the team is not going to do everything they can to win, or he moves Tony.
I agree that Tony would be a huge part of recruiting Paul, but he can't be a compliment to him in the rotation, even disregarding his injury and injury history.
Spurs have to decide by July 1st right?
Not as far as I know. If they want to get Paul, they just need to decide before they sign him.
Ugh..
NFL players return after similar injury.
While ACL injuries happen at the rate of approximately 30-plus per year in the NFL (only counting those suffered while playing games), patellar tendon ruptures are in the single digits.And then there’s the matter of returning to play. A study published in the American Journal of Sports Medicine in 2011 examined 22 NFL players who had suffered the injury across a decade. Approximately 79 percent of those players returned to play at least one NFL game. That number seems encouraging; however, the quality of return performance is not easily assessed.Based on the post-injury history of several notable players, there is at least some cause for concern. In 2008, Buccaneers running back Carnell “Cadillac” Williams returned to action following a patellar tendon repair on one knee, only to tear the patellar tendon in his opposite knee just a month later. He played three more seasons, the final two primarily in a backup role. Cardinals running back Ryan Williams, a second-round pick in the 2011 draft, suffered a patellar tendon rupture in his rookie training camp. Although he did play in a handful of games in 2012, he never truly got on track with his career (most recently, he was released by the Cowboys this past July). Safety Nate Allen, now with the Raiders, ruptured his patellar tendon as a rookie in 2010 and struggled to return to form until 2013, when he played all 16 games with the Eagles. This September, he suffered another knee injury, which was severe enough to send him to IR/designated for return until he was re-activated in Week 10. And Giants wide receiver Victor Cruz, who tore his patellar tendon last October, was unable to play this season after sustaining a calf injury.
http://www.espn.com/blog/stephania-b...ad-to-recovery
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Who cares? There is nothing more important over the next 3 years than the Warrior's health. If they remain 100% we're toast. Maybe we'll get lucky like the 90's Rockets and someone will decide baseball is a good idea.
He's still the only guard[besides Manu] who can run the offense against good teams without freaking out, he really seemed to have a calming effect. Not turning it over is as important against the warriors as anything. Let him be horry.
Not really, he just had a semi throw back playoffs performance where he did most of his damage attacking and creating off the pick and roll, he didn't do much spot up, tbh.
If you tell me that's the Parker we are going to get for the next three years then by all means sign him up, but it is highly unlikely, tbh.
What? He did a ton of spot up. IIRC he was our best spot up 3PT shooter in the playoffs. But that's not the point anyways.
Yeah, he was good with the threes, but I doubt that is sustainable.
And I don't know what the point is, what is it? That he might accept a 3rd string PG role for the minimum? I doubt it, but if that's the case then I have no problem resigning him for 3, 4, 5 or all the years he wants, tbh.
I agree with what you said in your post with the exception of "loyal mode". I've got a pretty good memory regarding the Spurs and I can't remember when this team has ever been "loyal" to a player who could not perform up to expectations or salary. Keeping Tim until he retired would not be a good example. The guy was one year removed from an All-Star appearance and would have been welcomed back in any sort of role. He's in a category all to himself.
The only other person I can think of is Sean Elliott (a beloved player who had already been traded once). He stunned the team with his announcement that he needed a kidney transplant and was given the opportunity to try and come back. That's different from a structural damage to a leg. As we all saw, he was never the same and he decided to retire after being relegated to the bench.
IF TP is on the roster next year it will be because no other team will have accepted the salary dump. That's it, and there is a good chance that happens. There is no loyalty to players or loyalty mode - especially when you are literally costing the team a chance to win. Manu was paid $14 Million dollars but that amount did not effect the Spurs' salary cap number or ability to sign Pau Gasol to a $16 Mill contract. You can argue that Manu's last contract was a loyalty payment for accepting less money in previous years. I seriously doubt he gets another fat 1 year contract like that again. If he wants to come back to the Spurs it will be at a far less number. Otherwise, all the more power to him to get his $$ elsewhere.
Isn't that what you do when someone s on Fathead? Call them a troll and not argue their point?
Thanks for agreeing that it makes you look saltyIf you think I was ting on Tony.... I was very bland... a real troll post would be more saucy, filled with Porker and other juicy bites...
Basketball is business..... If PATFO respect the fans and the organization they will always put what's best for the team ahead of personal agendas/feelings..
Truth bomb.
thanks for sharing. Some of the stuff there is downright scary, specially that guy who after rehabbing and returning from the injury ruptured the patellar tendon on the other knee! ouch!
My concern is really that Tony is breaking down. Only Pop's careful monitoring and rest have delayed this process, but he's reminding me of Kobe, who once he tore his achilles rehabbed and came back to continue to get injured again up until the season he retired (and was obviously washed up too.)
SF Cedric Ceballos, 1996-97, age 27, Lakers/SunsPartial tear of the right patellar tendon in November 1996, expected to be out 2 months. He got reactivated in January, but it continued to bother him throughout the season missing several more games with a strained patella in March after a trade to the Suns. He continued to have s ome problems with his right knee (meniscus) and especially his wrists over the following years. Some drop in production, though he did have another strong season with the Mavericks in 1999-00.
PF Antonio McDyess, 2001-2003, age 27-29, Nuggets: Several fractures and tearsSubluxated left patella in March 2001 (partial/incomplete dislocation). Missed remainder of the season. Initially there was no surgery, then in October 2001 he required surgery to repair what was then diagnosed as a partially torn patellar tendon. In addition he needed arthroscopic surgery on the right knee to clean out some loose debris and was expected to be out 3-4 months. In March 2002 he briefly got activated, but was deactivated quickly again when both knees got inflamed.Next season: Joining the Knicks that offseason, he was immediately placed on the injured list with a "left knee inflammation", and then in October required another surgery to repair a fracture to the left patella. In April 2003 he needed yet another surgery on the left knee patella missing the entire 2002-03 season.When finally returning to action, he played in 42 games in 2003-04 season. Then continued to play several seasons completely or close to. His statistics dropped significantly across the board before going up slightly again but never back to previous state. However as of now he is still active as a rotation player.
SF Glen Rice, 2001-02, age 34, RocketsPartial tear in December required surgery on right knee a month later, out for the remainder of the season.Next season: Appeared in 62 games, but he continued to have some problems with the right knee (strain, hyperextension, bruise). His stats dropped slightly, and at age 36 he was reaching his career end the following season where he appeared in his last 18 games.
PG Damon Stoudemire, 2005-06, age 32, GrizzliesSurgery on torn right patellar tendon in January 2006 after injuring it just before the end of the year, out for remainder of the season.He already had suffered from what was deemed 'left knee tendinitis' a decade earlier when on the Raptors missing the end of the 1995-96 season without going into detail which tendon. While with the Blazers he missed much of November with 2001 right knee tendinitis.Next season: Played in 62 games. Stats dropped to level from a few years earlier while about maintaining efficiency. Career end after 2007-08 season where he played in another 60 games.
C Alonzo Mourning, 2007, age 37, HeatSurgery on right knee to repair torn patellar tendon after 25 games, out for remainder of the season.Update: He had already sustained a partial tear in the left knee in 1997 pausing for ca. 3 months (initial diagnosis was 8 to 12 weeks), and missed a few games in December 2004 with 'right knee tendinitis'.Next season: Ended career
SG Kelenna Azubuike, 2009, age 26, WarriorsTorn patellar tendon in left knee after having appeared in 9 games, out for the season. In the video of the injury it looked like someone had beaten him out of mid-air with a bat when he tried to go up on a drive to the basket.
people of the world unite to rid our selves of current cir stances around the world, and as long as the MAN upstairs has the plans and the keys to the kingdom. You can wish and dream all you want, but at the end of the day you've got 1 bum knee and an aging 35 yr body TP.. While I hate for the former champ to go out this way.. Please for the love of god don't pull a Patrick Ewing and stay 1 yr to many and tarnish your good name, with the notion of reclaiming your former glory... It didn't turn out so well for others in the past.... Please hang up the sneakers and cash in the final paycheck. Knowing you gave your best yrs to this team and we were all the better for it..
All hail the little French train that could..
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