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Doubtful Simmons agrees early. He's gunna put the Spurs in a tough spot if he drags this out... which could ultimately land him on a worse Spurs team if they aren't able to maneuver early this free agency without a handshake in place with him.
Spurs should bluff the league and let it be known that they will match any offer for Simmons....and NOT ing do it. Keep that dumb mother er in the 2 to 3 million per range. 9 is way too much.
Doubtful Simmons agrees early. He's gunna put the Spurs in a tough spot if he drags this out... which could ultimately land him on a worse Spurs team if they aren't able to maneuver early this free agency without a handshake in place with him.
I'm not the biggest Simmons fan, but I don't know what some of you are mad about, tbh
Look at the salaries of similar wings who signed, last off-season:
Kent Bazemore- 16 mil
Clarkson- 12.5 mil
Luol Deng(finished, but for example) -18 mil
Evan Turner- 16 mil
Afflalo- 12.5 mil
Jamal Crawford- 15 mil
Austin Rivers- 11
Allen Crabbe- 18.5
Granted, the salary cap was expected to drop and last off-season was a bit of an anomaly, but still..
Keeping Simmons cap hold intact and then signing him at the end of free agency is a no brainer. Especially if you plan on getting rid of Green. Hope he agrees to stay so the Spurs can operate fully knowing he's gunna be there to sign after all the chips fall. At that point I don't really care if it's for $8 or $12.
Someone will offer him Bazemore money. And if he gets $6-7M/yr more than the Spurs offer, he'd be insane not to take it.I'm not the biggest Simmons fan, but I don't know what some of you are mad about, tbh
Look at the salaries of similar wings who signed, last off-season:
Kent Bazemore- 16 mil
Clarkson- 12.5 mil
Luol Deng(finished, but for example) -18 mil
Evan Turner- 16 mil
Afflalo- 12.5 mil
Jamal Crawford- 15 mil
Austin Rivers- 11
Allen Crabbe- 18.5
Granted, the salary cap was expected to drop and last off-season was a bit of an anomaly, but still..
it's 2017 bro. everything is too much. Better get with it bc it's not changing anytime soon
I'm not the biggest Simmons fan, but I don't know what some of you are mad about, tbh
Look at the salaries of similar wings who signed, last off-season:
Kent Bazemore- 16 mil
Clarkson- 12.5 mil
Luol Deng(finished, but for example) -18 mil
Evan Turner- 16 mil
Afflalo- 12.5 mil
Jamal Crawford- 15 mil
Austin Rivers- 11
Allen Crabbe- 18.5
Granted, the salary cap was expected to drop and last off-season was a bit of an anomaly, but still..
Similar wings? Every one of those players have more experience than Jonathan Simmons, were most likely drafted, in some cases won sixth man of the year. WTF has Simmons ever done to earn anywhere near that kind of money? Besides, some of those contracts were ridiculous and the respective teams probably regret signing them.
Nah man, dude made under 1 million last season because thats who he was and what he was worth. He outplayed it, but lets not get crazy. In no ing way is he worth 9 million dollars a season. I'd rather have Mills get that money than Simmons & I like Simmons. Holy , this salary stuff is out of control.
He competes so we need more guys like him.
I like Simmons but could you set the bar any lower? Bonner showed more energy last season than LMA/Gasol.
JSim for 9 or an Olapido type contract for 20/21m. 9 is OK by me.
Um say what to back to yourself. You and I have a completely different opinion on Mills and Simmons. I wouldn't give Mills even 3 million dollars, but I would be OK with giving Simmons 9 million based on his defense alone over Patty.
I think this would be a smarter move for himself if he believes in his ability to improve. Two more years learning and improving with the Spurs could make him a much better player that can get an even bigger payday when he's 29. That would be a smart move on his part if he believes he can turn himself into a better player by sticking with the Spurs a bit longer.
Based on Simmons' potential? He averaged 6.2 pts and 2 rebounds per game in nearly 18 minutes of game time.
Mills had a hard time getting his shot off with Klay Thompson guarding him. Who doesn't? My hope is that Mills gets to go back to his role of shooting and not being a distributor. He is NOT a pg.
This will look so much better when someone offers him 12 mil and he turns it down because the Spurs are the ones who gave him his shot and he will be grateful and loyal. This is where he needs to be to continue to grow and with Kawhi there as the biggest example of how the Spurs develope players.
I bet Gary Neal, Derek Brown, Beno Udrich wish they had stayed. George Hill has said he wants to come back Cory Jospeh got paid to be stuck in Toronto but got his start in San Antonio. Nando DeColo was developing nicely, but we had too many guards then.
If Simmons leaves, he will be expected to be a finished product, here it's known he's still developing.
I expect Simmons to sign here.
9 a year is a steal even considering his inconsistency with how many scrubs are getting paid today. That said, if he wants more then he should go get it from other teams.
Now that would be the cherry on the top of this cake.
I can't believe that early last season, a lot of you folks were proclaiming Simmons as a complete bust.
Now we are worried about having to pay more than $9m?
I was worried day one that we signed him up only for a 2 year contract.
i wouldn't consider that a steal on any level, but it's an acceptable sum of money.
9 million for a dwade type player.....steal
Harlem like to be melodramatic. All of those players he mentioned for comparison sake have proven themselves in one way or another. Simmons got him self a $9M qualifying offer because he had a good 2 week stretch in the playoffs leading up to free agency, rather than the sub par player he's been for the past two full seasons.
Similar wings? Every one of those players have more experience than Jonathan Simmons, were most likely drafted, in some cases won sixth man of the year. WTF has Simmons ever done to earn anywhere near that kind of money? Besides, some of those contracts were ridiculous and the respective teams probably regret signing them.
Nah man, dude made under 1 million last season because thats who he was and what he was worth. He outplayed it, but lets not get crazy. In no ing way is he worth 9 million dollars a season. I'd rather have Mills get that money than Simmons & I like Simmons. Holy , this salary stuff is out of control.
He's got that D-Wade swag but not a pinky's worth the talent.
Do not want.
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