Pop: starting Dejounte bc we need to know what we have

[MaNu4Tres]

Are you going to pretend you didn't see that last season, specially in the playoffs at times? Really please. This is Pop we are talking about. He's going to play Patty unless he is traded. Any player you take minutes from to give to Patty is going to create a defensive problem, except Tony and Tony is going to play too. I completely get what you are saying and I agree with you in part... but I also know Pop and he's going to play Patty. I would not be surprised at Murra/Patty where Patty takes Danny's spot. same in the bench.. with Tony/Patty though I would hope not... what I think should happen is not the same as what I think Pop will do.

Last year is irrelevant. So many different variables this year as Spurs added Gay, and Murray/ Kyle/ Manu have made leaps.

Last year vs Memphis we saw Mills/ Parker lineups at times ( times ..meaning rarely) because Manu was horrible, Murray wasn't in picture and Kyle wasn't as trusted. Green played more than Patty still. There was enough time for Green and Mills to have their roles. And as for against Rockets & GS, we saw Mills & Murray because no Kawhi, no Parker.

This year, if everyone is healthy and with Murray starting, there simply won't be as many minutes open. If so, and if Patty takes Danny's minutes, that means you reduce Danny's role to a 10-12 minute role ( for Patty to get his 15 minutes) because Gay, Kyle, Murray, a better Manu are all eating 15-25 minutes.

I'm not saying Patty will be sent to dog house or never see time, I just don't see a consistent role there unless you take away Danny or Manus role -- which is crazy to me.

And no I don't think we'll be seeing Rudy at the 5. I think Pop staggers LA/Pau when everything is tightened up.

[SAGirl]

Last year is irrelevant. So many different variables this year as Spurs added Gay, and Murray/ Kyle/ Manu have made leaps.

Last year vs Memphis we saw Mills/ Parker lineups at times ( times ..meaning rarely) because Manu was horrible, Murray wasn't in picture and Kyle wasn't as trusted. Green played more than Patty still. There was enough time for Green and Mills to have their roles.

This year, if everyone is healthy and with Murray starting, there simply won't be as many minutes open. If so, and if Patty takes Danny's minutes, that means you reduce Danny's role to a 10-12 minute role ( for Patty to get his 15 minutes) because Gay, Kyle, Murray, a better Manu are all eating 15-25 minutes.

I'm not saying Patty will be sent to dog house or never see time, I just don't see a consistent role there unless you take away Danny or Manus role -- which is crazy to me.

And no I don't think we'll be seeing Rudy at the 5. I think Pop staggers LA/Pau when everything is tightened up.

I will give you this feedback. You have very good points and I do hope Pop doesn't stick to the same old from prior seasons bc this team is different and sticking with the same old wasn't giving him good results. In fact he stuck to Patty for a long while this season while he was sucking before deciding to move him back to an off the ball role as a spot up shooter again and feature Dejounte again, and Tony.

I also agree with you this is a different team right now, with guys having more significant roles this season than they had last year (Dejounte and Kyle, but also shooters like Davis possibly getting minutes as designated shooters around a different group, and there is the possibility of spot minutes for Forbes too, should shooting be needed).

I have said it elsewhere, but I have had the feeling for a while that the team's iden y is changing. You can see it in Manu's writing even... he said: "we can't find the iden y we need without Kawhi." The team has changed and will continue to change the better some guys who weren't factors last season play (including Rudy when he's back healthy)... Think Patty and his 50 Mills deal will not get reduced to not getting played though and if that happens at some point, they need to trade him.

[TD 21]

The overriding point is that this overload at guard and the perimeter in general is untenable going forward. Even when Ginobili retires, if Parker fulfills his 20 season goal, the trickle down effect is: Mills will primarily defend SG's or wings for the remainder of his contract. Forbes, who they seem high on, is definitely gone. White is blocked to a path to the rotation through his entry level contract.

They either want to get a better sense of what they have in Murray before going all in on a pursuit of Walker, they've already determined they're doing that and are showcasing him for them or both. But aside from the obvious (upgrading the team and appealing to Leonard), that would clear up this logjam.

If they don't make that trade and ever get healthy this season, think the 10th man / spot minutes will be based on play and match-up.

[TheGreatYacht]

Pattys the only guard/wing from last yrs rotation who hasn't been hurt, Kawhi has only played 9 games, and Tony & Manu have been out a lot, emoji got. 2nd In minutes, how about some context got? When you play every game, when everyone else misses 10 games at least, your minutes will be higher, dumbass emoji got.

You act like he's made the All Star team.

God damn