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We were on the other side of the fense in 98....They had no problem with courting the spurs....Sad their Mayor was only down here to offer the spurs a new stadium, but no financial support for the ppl of san antonio who lost homes in the flood...
Right after 9/11 everyone wanted to be sure that the start of the NFL season was not postponed. It was a sign of hope. It was part of a process of healing. Football is very important to its community. Especially during trying times. It may just be entertainment...but it also so much more.
We were on the other side of the fense in 98....They had no problem with courting the spurs....Sad their Mayor was only down here to offer the spurs a new stadium, but no financial support for the ppl of san antonio who lost homes in the flood...
How important?Football is very important to its community. Especially during trying times. It may just be entertainment...but it also so much more.
You will need to put a dollar figure on it.
It was $186 million from the state directly into Benson's pocket.
What will it be now?
HAHAHAHAHA...Exactly my point. You said it yourself. OUR CITY HAS BEEN WIPED OUT, NEIGHBORS SPREAD ALL OVER OR DEAD!!!!!!
SO YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE OUR FOOTBALL TEAM ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE?!?!?!
Thanks a bunch...next time at least give us a reach around!!!
The franchise came to SA. It's looking for a home.
No, but it's not a NFL franchise.There is no human right to the Alamo is there?
No, I'm saying maybe you should be thinking about them instead of losing a business that was forced to relocate.
Feel free. Its the Alamo, its ugly and boring.
Football is a game. It's not vital to someone's life (if you want to lead a healthy one, I suppose).
OMFG, how do people live in a city where there is no NFL team?!
New Orleans was lucky to have a NFL franchise for all those years. The luck was running out way before Katrina hit.
So are the Saints!!!!!!!Feel free. Its the Alamo, its ugly and boring.
That would be a sweet stadium...Maybe the Saints need to go back to LSU to play and see if they can make it there financially till the smoke blows over and decides what their future will be,.....Then maybe if they come back to SA, we're not to blame anymore.
Show me one piece of evidence that the Saints were leaving before Katrina! Until I see this I will not respond to this argument again.
I have shown evidence that there is/was a long term plan with N.O. for the Saints nobody has shown me anything that says the Saints were leaving before Katrina. Your media has told you this but it is untrue.
Better to be lucky than good.
San Antonio did not go looking for the Saints, the Saints came to us. I'm not going to look down on my mayor and city for not turning them away to make people like you happy.
What was going to happen before Katrina is irrelevent considering Katrina did hit and there is no way to erase that. Show me once piece of proof you should have any say so in the running of a private franchise.
I think the residents of New Orleans should look to South Carolina for sympathy.
Stop being an asshole, Manny. You're better than that.
New Orleans is a smaller market than SA is and has supported an absolute dog franchise for damn near forty years. The team is woven into the fabric of their community, much like the Spurs in San Antonio, and the owner of the team hasn't said one ing word about their return - not next year, not when the city recovers, not when the Superdome is rebuilt, nothing.
Really, the only thing the fans of the Saints are hearing is the mayor of San Antonio's open courting of Tom Benson in the aftermath of a gigantic natural disaster, and team officials getting fired over their objections to Benson's actions.
Saints fans feel betrayed and so far, they have every reason to believe that they were. All of us fans lusting over the prospect of the Saints staying in SA are fair game. Hardberger and the city aren't exactly showing any dignity in their actions (like waiting until the offseason) because they know that this is the best chance the city might ever have and they're grabbing it with both hands. I guess I can't blame them becuase they're looking out for number one and all, but I would have preferred this situation handled in a classier manner.
Maybe this is the true sign of the city really growing up, then. When TPTB stopped caring about public perception and looked for national prominence through any means possible. I'm sure that Buddy Holly thinks this is a great idea, but to me it's one more way that SA is selling out.
Dignity is one of those things that once you lose, you never fully get back. Whoring out for someone else's football team after the enormous hit the city took from Katrina certainly qualifies.
I think that is a viable option. The Superdome will be ready before too long. If N.O. proves they cannot support the Saints then whatever city should have the chance to sustain a team.
If there was poor attendence prior to Katrina or Benson was actually talking with a city before all of this then there would not be a problem.
"SHinerBockGirl, the flood in SA has absolutely no relation to La luring the Spurs nor can it be compared to the devastation in NO."
Your missing my point, i was not comparing the 2, only that the opportunity was there for their Mayor to come to SA and offer a new stadium deal knowing the Quarry deal fell through and it was during the big flood and considered a DISASTER in SA....It was an opportunity for them and they took it....
No one said they were leaving. All that has been said is that Benson was been looking to leave before Katrina. You admitted as much in this thread.Show me one piece of evidence that the Saints were leaving before Katrina! Until I see this I will not respond to this argument again.
Comparing the Alamo to the Superdome is apples to oranges. The Alamo has historical significance, the Superdome does not.
How about paying my tax dollars to the tune of $180 million to the team to keep them in the state.
The state gives large sums of money to the team every year because Benson is a ing prick. Our money and our contract gives us a say so.
You know, prior to reading the way New Orleans fans were handling this, I had no bone in the Saints to SA arguement. I didn't care one way or another as long as public tax dollars weren't used.
I'm still against public tax dollars being used, but I'm not going to feel very bad at all if they move. Not a single bit.
Does anyone think it is wrong for SA to try and get the team if Benson is offering them? (if indeed that is the case)
Then it won't be so easy for the Saints to move will it? I don't know what is in the contract (and I'd be more pissed off at my government giving that kind of money away when it could be used in a much smarter way but thats your issue to deal with. Apparently the Saints are that important to you which I see a lunacy) and I don't really care, but if you have a legal right to keep the Saints, I suspect you will.
However, I doubt that is the case.
Every team is looking to leave...given the opportunity of enough money anyone is looking to leave any city!!!! Benson looks to leave every year...so do many other owners in other cities. It is called leverage and milking cities for more money.
Take your San Antonio glasses off. The Superdome is as historically significant to NOLA as the Alamo is to Texas.
No. We're talking about entertainment. If New Orleans feels ed over because they've been lining Benson's pockets then I suggest they look at their elected officials and ask them how they could have gotten them into such a stupid situation to begin with. Government has no place in paying for an NFL franchise in that manner. Why? Because private business will you the first chance and every chance after that.
New Orleans, if nothing else learn a valuable lesson from this and stop whoring yourself to sports franchises.
And once again, go cry on the shoulders of the people from the Carolinas. I'm sure they'll be very sympathetic.
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