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Your points are all valid. But imo there is no point you can make to excuse the albatross contracts the spurs handed out over the summer out of loyalty that will hamstring our flexibility in the future and completely make it impossible to land a big FA without a ton of unlikely trades first.
If this goes south in the off-season I would trade KL for picks, and rebuild it all again. Trade LA, Tony will move on and Manu will retire. Pop should step down and they can hire a new young coach, or promote from within. But I would have faith in Spurs MGT to rebuild it the correct way. They have done it before. I just try to be in this thing for the long haul.. It is a great organization.
Anyone watching the post-game coverage? It really seems like they keep emphasizing guys coming back from injury right now. It's just weird.
Can you ellabotate? I stream games not nationally televised since I am not local anymore. What’s the chatter?
Just them saying multiple times how awesome Tony and Rudy were for coming back "so quickly" from their injuries. Pretty sure they mentioned Manu's injuries too. Very effusive in how the Spurs have rallied despite the guys they have missing and how awesome LMA is.
In five more years you will understand what i mean about media hype. Continue on your journey. Shocked its taken you so long when youre one of the few semi intelligent posters on here.
People keep mentioning L.A like they have the assets to come and get him from us. Phoenix, Boston, Cleveland should be ahead in the trade partner que tbh
Bro, how does it feel to be finding out your boy Kawhi is might the softest and most cowardly superstar the league has ever seen?
I see my FkLA has already kicked him to the curb..
Agreed. Stupid thread, same $*@% has been said elsewhere hundreds of times, OP just looking for attention.
Dunc'd On made a interesting point; The Spurs could simply offer him the designated player super max but instead of the full 35% max, have it be like 32%. If he doesn't return this season, then he'll probably be inclined to sign it and lock into guaranteed money that he wouldn't be able to make otherwise.
If Kawhi plays well next season and still wants to be moved then the Spurs could move him with 4 years remaining on his deal thus opening the field up to teams that wouldn't otherwise make a move for a disgruntled superstar for fear that he would sign elsewhere.
Teams with good assets and lack of top talent, such as Phoenix or Atlanta could enter the sweepstakes and drive up Kawhi's value by giving the Spurs various options.
On the other hand, if Kawhi and PATFO can repair their relationship and Kawhi returns to his 2016-2017 level then the Spurs will have locked up him up but at a pretty good discount.
I hate the Pau deal. I wasn't a hater of the Mills deal, but as the season goes on and he plays the worst he's played in a Spurs uni, it's impossible to defend. But knocking the Spurs for free agency periods that have yet to happen is stupid. It wouldn't be the first time they got out from under contracts in a miracle way if it happened so I"m not going to say its impossible for that to happen yet.
Still that ing Pau deal. Man wtf.
And if we get another repeat of this season? The Spurs are plaing 20 million to a guy who won't ing play right now. You have to at least consider the risk before almost doubling that.
He is already under contract for $20 million next season anyway, besides he's already been cleared and PATFO may opt to wait until after next season but there are risks on both sides then.
Kawhi could miss out on being all NBA which means that the Spurs lose the option of the Super Max, lessening the financial advantage of him staying, thus he could walk for nothing but he would also be making a lot less money then.
The idea that they presented is probably best for both sides, it is a small gamble but it could save the Spurs money in the long term and give Kawhi security. If Kawhi balls out next season and is still unhappy then the Spurs could move him and get more teams to bid on him thus driving up the price for him.
Team BSB for me. Hate NSYNC.
Wish the Poll was public, but the results are kinda telling..
Since that Woj report in February about him being cleared by two medicals teams (Spurs' and NewYork specialists) the evidence has started to stack up against Leonard and his camp in this whole saga..There is absolutely no doubt right now whose call it was to sit out almost an entire basketball season because of a sore joint.
Fanbase perception of Leonard is bound to change in light of what has transpired this year. You could just feel it by browsing Spurs twitter..
Hard to respect Kawhi after hearing how his uncle is pulling all the strings. I just get the vibe this has nothing to do with the FO, medical staff,coaching, but everything to do with Kawhi's uncle wanting him to be in SA. I have more respect for guys like Kyrie, Paul George who were straight up honest with their teams about their desire not to be there anymore instead of playing the re ed passive aggressive bs act Kawhi is doing. I remember during the 90's Scottie Pippen being at war openly through the media with the bulls ownership/management but still being a professional and playing. I feel Kawhi has been disgracefully unprofessional this year.
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this hurts the spurs offseason in terms off attracting free agents, what kind of cachet will they have if they don't even know when their star player will play? how will the spurs explain it to free agents?
"Come here and be the guy who convinces Kawhi to play. You'll be a legend."
So why feed the media the bull that he is will make his return in late March?
Maybe Kawhi is a Trump man and he just doesn't want to plat for Pop.
KL lost me with a fake ass injury.
I wouldn't worry about it. They kicked financial flexibility down the road until '19 last off season and basically haven't seen this roster at full strength, so most likely they're bringing back the majority of this team. The only significant outside free agents I could see them pursuing, are Bradley and maybe Caldwell-Pope, if they lose Green.
Besides, I would anticipate the Leonard fiasco gets resolved, one way or another, before free agency opens. Their season will be finished by late April, giving them 2 months to have a cooling off period and summit meeting. He can't officially sign the super max until July 1st, but they can reach an agreement in principle before then.
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