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    "Our own Americans in need"

    Who here does anything for these people? What is this need? Are they starving to death?

    I see this phrase thrown around without context. Let's apply some. An American in need means they have to work two jobs to provide for the family because they are a single parent household. They could very well be obese. Their kids could very well be obese and they could have luxuries beyond what a 3rd world family has. Is it your goal to give these people more money? (welfare) Is it your goal to create better opportunities so that a single mom of 3 or 4 can make more money with the same skill set? (inflation)

    Tell me what these needs are and how they are going to be met that somehow the immigrants are stealing away.
    You don't think that all that money that was spent on educating illegals kids could have been spent on American kids? That those funds couldn't have brought the level of education/passing rates/graduation rates/ability to qualify for college up thereby giving our citizens better jobs/opportunity? In simple terms, I take care of my own BEFORE others. Sure, I could give away my kids' college fund but how would that affect my kids' chances of themselves becomes welfare recipients instead of contributing tax dollars. Feel free to do what you want with YOUR money but I have an obligation to take care of my own before I give to others and I'd like to STAY in a position where I can do both - which doesn't include letting in every Tom, and Harry who wants to come here (especially illegally) - spending more to educate, feed and clothe them - legal/border/administrative costs.

    And yes, training for that single mom so that she can get off welfare and contribute tax dollars instead of taking up tax dollars.

    Welfare Use
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    Native 30%

    Figure 1 of https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-I...ive-Households

    I would like to work on getting our natives off welfare and changing the immigration system to a merit-based one so that 51% of LEGAL immigrants aren't ending up on welfare (that they can take care of themselves and hopefully contribute tax dollars instead of using them).

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    A reasonable perspective on immigration and why we need to control it.
    You are such an impressionable goober. Nothing but regurgitated talking points.

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    Of course, with America being rigged, corrupted by the oligarchy over the past 40+ years, this asshole is bloviating against touching that status quo.

    This privileged white male racist asshole is worried about the predicted, INEVITABLE demographic "transformation" where his white population, not reproducing at replacement level, and children becoming just another financial planning input, becomes the minority group as browns and black "breed" more prolifically.
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    Of course, with America being rigged, corrupted by the oligarchy over the past 40+ years, this asshole is bloviating against touching that status quo.

    This privileged white male racist asshole is worried about the predicted, INEVITABLE demographic "transformation" where his white population, not reproducing at replacement level, and children becoming just another financial planning input, becomes the minority group as browns and black "breed" more prolifically.
    He is not the only one advocating controlling illegal immigration and changing our legal immigration system. I, a chinese female, from a country where 92%? of the country is BLACK is advocating the same. Am I worried about the above? NO - I'm worried that more and more people coming into this country are headed to welfare and sooner or later, the workers will not be able to support that.

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    [QUOTE=rmt;9343766I'm worried that more and more people coming into this country are headed to welfare and sooner or later, the workers will not be able to support that.[/QUOTE]

    More browns are leaving America than are coming.

    Study after study show the the 10M+ browns are a net positive for the American economy.

    White Americans on public assistance, aka "leeches, moochers, Welfare Queens in Cadillacs", outnumber the non-whites.

    If you weren't primarily a racist, you would worry more accurately about the white male oligarchy pushing Trash's "white (male) working class" into poverty, near-poverty, and keeping them there, and on $Bs of public assistance (which the white male oligarchy has EVERY intention of reducing dramatically to "pay for" the white male oligarchy's tax cuts).

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    Lol at conservatives in here saying California is a mess. High salaries, a booming economy, the most gdp of any state, an amazing job market, fantastic companies headquartered there.

    yea what a hole.

    Lol at these same stupid asses saying Austin will be “ ” soon as well. Austin is an extremely nice city which shares many of the qualities listed above.

    i would love to hear the definition of a great state/city from those on the right. Please enlighten me with what you are looking for
    You forgot high taxes(which are completely wasted) and high costs.

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    You forgot high taxes(which are completely wasted) and high costs.
    how are, where are CA's high taxes completely wasted?

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    You forgot high taxes(which are completely wasted) and high costs.
    I disagree with the wasted part, of people are willing to pay a very high premium to live somewhere isn’t it safe to assume that is probably a great place to live? I don’t see anyone lining up to pay over a million for homes in states like Alabama,Louisiana, and the rest of the southern holes.

    high cost of living sucks, but if you can afford to live there California is a pretty fantastic place to be. If money wasn’t an object I would settle in San Diego personally

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    I disagree with the wasted part, of people are willing to pay a very high premium to live somewhere isn’t it safe to assume that is probably a great place to live? I don’t see anyone lining up to pay over a million for homes in states like Alabama,Louisiana, and the rest of the southern holes.

    high cost of living sucks, but if you can afford to live there California is a pretty fantastic place to be. If money wasn’t an object I would settle in San Diego personally
    Apart from zoning regs which limits the housing stock, the housing demand is high because because people want to live there, there's lots of money to be made. Poor people are suffering, homeless (esp LA) or being forced out, and rich retired people are cashing in their homes and moving out, but middle and upper income people want to be there. Pacific coast, forests, mountains, snow, deserts, rivers, national/state parks.

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    More browns are leaving America than are coming.

    Study after study show the the 10M+ browns are a net positive for the American economy.

    White Americans on public assistance, aka "leeches, moochers, Welfare Queens in Cadillacs", outnumber the non-whites.

    If you weren't primarily a racist, you would worry more accurately about the white male oligarchy pushing Trash's "white (male) working class" into poverty, near-poverty, and keeping them there, and on $Bs of public assistance (which the white male oligarchy has EVERY intention of reducing dramatically to "pay for" the white male oligarchy's tax cuts).
    Well, at least in this post, (according to you) it's the white male oligarchy sticking it to the white male working class. The whites on public assistance probably outnumber the non-whites because there are just more whites in the country - got some studies that show the percentages? And racist? I'm used to the goddamn stupid criticism but iirc, that one's a first for you.

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    Apart from zoning regs which limits the housing stock, the housing demand is high because because people want to live there, there's lots of money to be made. Poor people are suffering, homeless (esp LA) or being forced out, and rich retired people are cashing in their homes and moving out, but middle and upper income people want to be there. Pacific coast, forests, mountains, snow, deserts, rivers, national/state parks.
    I don't think it's the above bolded - it's the jobs and that the tech companies like Google and Apple insist on building in CA. Slight shift this year - only 3 from dd's circle are going to Google - guess they had enough of high cost of living in SV - more went MicroSoft or FB in Seattle (no state tax and more reasonable housing cost).

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    Of course, with America being rigged, corrupted by the oligarchy over the past 40+ years, this asshole is bloviating against touching that status quo.

    This privileged white male racist asshole is worried about the predicted, INEVITABLE demographic "transformation" where his white population, not reproducing at replacement level, and children becoming just another financial planning input, becomes the minority group as browns and black "breed" more prolifically.
    "privileged white male racist asshole"

    I love how the left just jumps to terrible conclusions and tries to shut it all down with some trite insult. May as well add phobic, sexist, trans-phobic, etc. to your baseless remarks only mean't to shut down conversation, mislead, and polarize.

    Of course lost in all your ridiculousness is the fact that the guy in the video was born and lives in Canada.

    But...but... he's a white male so I can all him every name in the book and assume every motive about him to shut down conversation. You need to grow up and get out of your toxic and idiotic bubble.

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    I don't think it's the above bolded - it's the jobs and that the tech companies like Google and Apple insist on building in CA. Slight shift this year - only 3 from dd's circle are going to Google - guess they had enough of high cost of living in SV - more went MicroSoft or FB in Seattle (no state tax and more reasonable housing cost).
    yes, ok, the high-paying jobs (high enough live decently) in Bay Area, LA county, San Diego, obviously keep people in CA but the bolded stuff, esp for the under 40s, helps a lot.

    Of course the tech companies want to bring 10Ks of South Asians to pay them peanuts compared to US techies.

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