Oh no you don't.I can't tackle any more big questions tonight.
Peace out ya'll!
Perhaps there is an absolute truth, I don't know. However let me tell you this, beware the person who claims to know that truth. I know I'm sounding all preacher like LOL, couldn't help it
The problem doesn't lie in wether or not there is an absolut truth, the problem is who's truth is the absolute one.
P.S. any more questions e-mail me at [email protected]
So that means you believe in god out of fear?
Night...we can continue tomorrow.Oh no you don't.
Peace out ya'll!
It's not believing out of fear (and I can't speak for Angel or anyone else) but it's more out of what I want for myself. I want the eternity that the Bible speaks of - it's not that I'm afraid of the alternative.
It's going after what I want - not merely trying to avoid what I don't want.
And no - I wouldn't feel like I wasted my life (to whomever asked). It's not like believing, or being a Christian is some sort of task. I can guarantee that atheists don't have more fun than I do just because they don't believe, and I do. I don't miss out on things that I want to do because I'm a Christian.
So you believe in god solely for personal gain? A chance of immortality?
No I am not at all afraid. I know Who I can trust.
And King is right.
Christians do not miss out on any good thing. On the contrary I am blessed big time. =)
I can only think of one song..
"I don't feel afraid...as long as I gaze on Waterloo Sunset, I am in paradise."
then why would atheists need to be afraid?
If god is all trusting and all forgiving?
What does it matter if I was to find god after death? You have to find him sometime.
Another question for yall religious people? When you are looking for a guy or girl to date, do they have to be religious for you to like them? If so, do they have to believe in the same religion?
Not sure what you mean by personal gain - I guess so. If personal gain is a good life, eternity, faith, strength, etc.
Most people believe in God to spend eternity in Heaven - so I guess we're all in it for 'personal gain.'
Believers are cool by me. If they follow the teachings they are supposed to, they won't steal my , won't kill anyone, won't try to poke my better half, they'll love their mothers, and they'll watch football on Sundays instead of working.
I can handle that.
I just would have thought religious people might have a connection, a mutual understanding. I dunno something more than just belief. It's all very well to believe but don't you ever question?
Or are you content with what is handed down by your church and deemed appropriate for the masses?
j-6 I hear that and before I get blasted I don't have a problem with religion in general there are however some areas of it that annoy me, mass recruiting, "holy wars" and the beleif that all religions outside of your own are wrong.
Of course you question things. Most people will question things, try to reason it, research it, etc...but sometimes you just have to just go on blind faith.
To paraphrase Lost - some people are men of science, some are men of faith.
Actually, hold on, let me hide my blonde roots. Apparently I already had one but I tried to create a new one, with the same ID, and had problems with the password. At least I think that's what happened.At least I don't have to type my name at the bottom anymore
For those who want some evidences regarding the Bible and it's validity, I would suggest you first lay aside your own "feelings" and go into search mode.
If you do some research you may come to realize, as many educated people have determined, that the various books of the Bible were written over the course of several centuries by writers in many different locations. They are most assuredly not fancifully contrived stories, but rather some of the oldest history books recorded of world events, cities, mountains, rivers, etc.. Events, locations and landmarks that have been substantiated by excavations in the modern era, even dozens in this century. More copies of these Bible manuscripts and artifacts supporting them are found every year as technology improves and excavation permissions are granted.
Example: The Gilgamesh Epic - 12 cuneform clay tablets that date as far back as 2700 BC were found near the ancient site of Ninevah - Tigris River area now known as Mosul in Iraq. These were written during the ancient civilization of Sumer (Sumerians) and some of the tablets substantiate what is referenced in the Old Testament Genesis accounts. Namely, the Sumerians in one of these cuneform tablets talks about a great flood, about an ark used in this worldwide flood used to house animals and birds and that the ark landed on a mountain. It is an extra-biblical evidence supporting the stories and historical accounts found in the collection of Bible manuscripts.
I'd suggest you do further study on these discoveries before going with your gut-feel and deciding to see who's correct or if you wasted your time... after it's too late and your life is used up here on earth.
I will just add to my previous post that evidence can only take you so far and although extremely helpful (see former athiest C.S. Lewis life story) ultimately, faith must play a key role.
We don't seek evidence that some of the Bible may be true. However, just because the bible has truth in it does not mean it is the only truth. There might have been a charismatic leader by the name of Jesus, I'm not going to dispute that, however show me evidence that Jesus was indeed the son of god, or that he indeed could cure with his touch. The bible is a good book, but its not the ONLY book. Try as might, all religious beliefs are ultimately about blind faith, not scientific fact, and that is what most agnostic people have problems with.
David Robinson believed in God, David Robinson is God, therefore there is a God. For David believed in himself.
ok so basically were back to where we were in the first place. half assed evidence that the bible was based on true events and places proves absolutely nothing other than men with great imaginations chose to base their tales on actual locations and events. That's as far as it will go. Ultimately what religion is asking you to do is believe without proof, and that is something I cannot do, as I imagine a lot of people can't.
I can't pretend to understand all the inner nuances of the christian religion but....
You have to "find" god correct? This has to happen at some stage for all religious peoples. It is going to vary from person to person so what would it matter if I was to find god after death?
What do you require for proof?
Do you believe history books, or what you're taught in school? You can read and hear about it ad nauseum, but at a point you just choose to believe those things.
Yes, I believe history books. I believe what is plausible about the history books. There is an ENOURMOUS difference between believing that a certain war took place in a certain location or the sort, and believing that a man could part the waters of the sea, or heal people with their touch, or resurrection.
If a history textbook tells me that a man grew wings and could spit fire through his mouth, I'd a bit sketical about believing that don't you think? The point is its absolutely NOT the same.
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