it's a bit naive to think the USG will apply the laws so that the "straight press" (and allegedly ethical hackers like Snowden) are unaffected and only the Assanges thrown in jail.
Indeed, why is Snowden holed up in Russia?
What’s Snowden did was incredibly important .
And illegal. And understandably so .
Again we need whistleblower laws that work.
In a democracy you can have random individuals deciding what’s good for the whole. It’s that simple and my view even if in Snowden‘s case it actually might have benefited the whole. He did not know this . He did not have a chance to discuss this with experts who understand the implications of what this does in a democracy .
it's a bit naive to think the USG will apply the laws so that the "straight press" (and allegedly ethical hackers like Snowden) are unaffected and only the Assanges thrown in jail.
Indeed, why is Snowden holed up in Russia?
Oh the 198for argument always good joker in the hole.
If not that just claim the New York Times is an arm of the CIA.
You are the last person that needs to be discussing the stuff.
How did Obama's prosecutions go?
What precedents did they set?
Not so well for Obama or their targets, whose professional careers were ruined.
Can't really speak for precedential value, can you?
A few pleaded out to lesser charges, so in some of the cases there was no precedent vis a vis the Espionage Act.
Snowden is being made and example .
This is pretty obvious that in a democracy this is very serious.
It’s too bad it had to happen this way but when there are not good avenues to inform superiors who then inform the government as Snowden worked for a private company. He must have Understood the gravity of what he was getting ready to do. He could not possibly have known about every piece of information he was releasing.
Again it’s the same old difficult argument, rights of the individual versus the good of the whole
given the permanent anti-terror emergency, the power of the USG is at a high water mark; no need to make it any stronger.
That is a very legitimate argument right now.
But long-term this is a real problem. Elected officials need to discuss this openly with the public.
Good interview covering all these topics way ahead of its time
Theres still that small matter of Assanges insurnce policy in the form of the unreleased do ents distributed to thousands of backup sources.
All they need is the encryption key and pandoras box will be open
At least in the end he can take down a lot of ppl with him![]()
He’s a . Be a shame if he rats on Trump![]()
for me this is where it gets murky and dangerous.
journalism as a protection racket: nice government you got there, it would be a pity if anything happened to it.
It’s not journalism if you are working with Russian Intelligence to disseminate stolen information.
Sure but IMO not as bad as governments saying nice family you got there, would be a pity if anything happened to them
we'll see.
as a matter of tradecraft, truthful information about matters of public importance may and does come from any source at all.
Publishing CIA secrets is a little bit different.
not if you're the NYT or the WaPo, apparently. they propped themselves up on Assange and Snowden for Pulitzers and Pritzkers.
When did they publish CIA materials without authorization? NYT and WAPo?
Most of these arguments might be irrelevant until we find out the actual charges.
I'd go with the justice dept knowing (and having strong evidence) which laws were broken and charge him appropriately.
Indeed sir.
Reality Winner anyone?
She got caught, charged and is now in prison for stealing and leaking classified information to a news outlet.
Imagine carrying water for Wikileaks.
Yep she is very much in jail
they published Reality Winner's revelations.
did they have proper authorization to do so?
And that was actually for a good cause for (In her eyes) trying to exposed the Russians.
was that a good cause, in your eyes, Reck?
revealing truthful information about a matter of public importance?
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