Jimmy Butler netted Saric/Covington and Jimmy is definitely considered better than Otto. Otto is already paid like Jimmy wants to be paid so there is no choice there.
Sure, Saric/Covington are better than Mills/Pau, but getting a first round pick and getting flexibltliy is arguably more than MIN got for Butler.
yeah but Butler organized kawaiiesque -show so Mini was forced to trade him. also he's a rental
It's like imagine we were trading Nephew a year earlier with no uncle show -- we would have got much, much more
Once again, Spurstalk talking out of every orifice as if the Spurs actually had assets other teams would be willing to trade for, much less give away their talent for pennies on the dollar. Washington is having a fire sale, not a garage sale.
and of course Saric & Covington are both positive value contracts & on the court.
Mills is probably negative value in most GMs' eyes
Fun to speculate but Patty isn't going anywhere, I'd be surprised if Pop signed off on moving Patty if it meant getting Anthony Davis back tbh.
Paddy Mills is untouchable. Who else on the roster other than Eubanks are you going to trade Damien Lillard for?
Of course Mills is untouchable. Who would want to touch him? Properly drugged Vlade Divac?
Oh and I would not touch Oubre with a 100 foot pole. I can’t stand that guy and he definitely strikes me as a “me-first” guy who thinks he’s better than he is and acts like Swaggy P.
This has been his best year so far and he still grades out in virtually every metric as a big net negative on BOTH sides of the ball. Given, a lot of WAS players have depressed advanced metrics because they are a dumpster fire, but that dude irks me so bad.
Wizards would probably sell RC on this Russian big man named Yakov Smirnoff they drafted in the first round a couple of years ago if the Spurs took on Walls contract.
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You had me at Russian...
They could probably get better but not a whole lot better. They'd likely have to decide whether to accept a total salary dump or a deal where they take back salary while also getting assets (young players or picks).
Ditto. He's talented but I've never seen him play winning basketball. He's young enough to change but giving up a first round pick for him wouldn't be a good gamble, IMO.
Probably Bible Kemp. No thanks.
Man, they're not even a decade removed from the gun issue. Seems like this franchise has been straight volatility since like, man, the CWebb days.
Bend over. I'll come up with a decent package.
The Wizards want to build with young players.
The Spurs want to build with young players.
I don't see a trade happening.
A variation is: Gasol, Mills, Pondexter (eligible December 15th) and either Spurs lottery protected 1st or Raptors 1st for Porter and Smith.
Think either would appeal to them. Grunfeld is old school and at some point is bound to get fired. Can't imagine him looking to re-build, but rather re-load. He'd probably value championship winning veterans, like Gasol and Mills, who have strong reputations and who'd both fill needs.
all the stupid washington fans on IG who kept saying “don’t sleep on the wizards” during the offseason
every player i can know on that roster is overrated.
When kyrie was available last offseason and I was saying he’s the best pg in a the east and I’d love if spurs could land him, remember he had spurs on his list, lots of people here were saying wall is the best pg in the east.
One thing I’ve always hated about is wall when opposing centers give a screen on him he never tries to fight through the screen, just switches and leaves his center/pf guarding a pg on an island. No matter the coach btw
the only players on Washington that i would want are Beal/Porter/Oubre in that order. And no way we have anything to trade for a player of Beal's caliber, Porter would be amazing and just what we need but he makes more than i can almost guarantee PATFO want to pay, and Oubre is good in theory but i know he will want more money in FA than spurs will want to pay, he is not really a spurs type of player personality wise, and his 3point shot isnt great.
Wizards are kinda ed because the only real chips they have are those 3 and no one wants Wall at 45+ mil a season so the wizards will be forced to keep building around a PG who will never win as their corner stone
Porter would at least be playable vs contenders with the season on the line.
Otto Porter is an advanced stat Don. The guy needs more shots and a better environment. He doesn't mesh well with Wall/Beal. Having him on the team would be ideal, especially if you consider that we can't get any of Butler, PG13, KD, LeBron, Giannis and obviously Kawhi. He's also a player whose contract is viewed as bad since he has been underperforming. The guy is only 25 and would break out under Pop. I think we could get him, but it would only make sense for Washington to get Gasol if they move Mahinmi. Some type of 3 team deal might make sense.
Going forward it would get us close to luxury tax, but not quite above it, we can resign Gay with bird rights. If we get rid of Bertans and maybe even Belinelli we could sign Stanley Johnson for the MLE and fill out the roster with the Bi-Annual Exception and some minimum contracts plus our draft pick. And we still have Milutinov overseas plus Moore on the 2-way contract. Spurs could be loaded with 3-and-D wings while starting
Murray/DeRozan/Porter/Gay/Aldridge
Commisioner Powder has already instructed the Wizards give Beal to the Lakers for a 2024 2nd round pick
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