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    Best scenario is that they trade him for an impact player to give themselves an outside shot at a le. Second best would be that Pau gets so fed up that he's willing to forego all of his 2019-2020 guarantee to be released immediately. Not having to worry about getting that salary off the books just opens up so many more options for them in the summer.
    The guy is just back from a (misdiagnosed) broken foot. Very hard for a 7 footer. I don't get all this hate for Pau, he played very solid minutes at the beginning of the season. He is still one of the best passers in the league, an excellent shooter, and one of the few rim protectors around. IF we make the playoffs he wil be a very useful weapon (ask Houston....)

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    The guy is just back from a (misdiagnosed) broken foot. Very hard for a 7 footer. I don't get all this hate for Pau, he played very solid minutes at the beginning of the season. He is still one of the best passers in the league, an excellent shooter, and one of the few rim protectors around. IF we make the playoffs he wil be a very useful weapon (ask Houston....)
    I do think Pau's a good player and could beat out Poe for that rotation spot before it's all over. I don't think playing all three of those guys is sustainable, at least not if the team is going to streak the right way. I'm also all about the team being aggressive in free agency in the summer, so cap space is really valuable in my mind.

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    I do think Pau's a good player and could beat out Poe for that rotation spot before it's all over. I don't think playing all three of those guys is sustainable, at least not if the team is going to streak the right way. I'm also all about the team being aggressive in free agency in the summer, so cap space is really valuable in my mind.
    moving Pau won't give you enough cap space though. They'd have to move Patty also to have significant cap room. You can bet money on them resigning Rudy

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    moving Pau won't give you enough cap space though. They'd have to move Patty also to have significant cap room. You can bet money on them resigning Rudy
    I know this. But getting out of Pau's $7 Million without having to give up an asset has value, because it would make it more possible to clear the rest of the cap space. Their best option is actually to operate as an above-cap team this summer and use the MLE to add another rotation guy. That's why trading Pau is the best long-term play. But if they can't trade for such a player, then trying to secure someone like Middleton or Thompson in free agency might be possible. That really only works under a "stealth tank" scenario where the team misses the playoffs and sells off its non-core players for cap space. With them looking like a solid playoff team, they aren't likely to even consider making such a move, and they shouldn't.

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    Also, I'm pretty sure Milutinov is locked into his contract for the rest of the season regardless. There was some July 12 deadline for his buyout. I guess that could be renegotiated if need be. The Spurs should be able to sign Milutinov mid-season, because they were over the cap to start this past summer. But it's also possible that he wouldn't take the rookie-scale offer, and the team can't offer more. Plus the scale offer might prorate.

    That's just a mess I don't want to look into.
    Isn't there a point in time when we are no longer restricted to the rookie scale and we can offer more than that?

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    I know this. But getting out of Pau's $7 Million without having to give up an asset has value, because it would make it more possible to clear the rest of the cap space. Their best option is actually to operate as an above-cap team this summer and use the MLE to add another rotation guy. That's why trading Pau is the best long-term play. But if they can't trade for such a player, then trying to secure someone like Middleton or Thompson in free agency might be possible. That really only works under a "stealth tank" scenario where the team misses the playoffs and sells off its non-core players for cap space. With them looking like a solid playoff team, they aren't likely to even consider making such a move, and they shouldn't.
    That's why I'd say they should trade Pau for an SF now. Even if it's an expiring they would have bird rights to then resign that player. Stanley Johnson should be gettable for MLE money next year. Middleton would be exactly who this team needs, but the Bucks gonna keep him and his contract will be massive

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    Isn't there a point in time when we are no longer restricted to the rookie scale and we can offer more than that?
    Yes, and we're at that point. I had forgotten that the team kept have the MLE, so they could offer that, but something like the LLE wouldn't cut it.

    Of course, sorta eff Nik if he wants more than the scale. Dude isn't worth a big contract. Would be the fourth center on the roster as currently constructed. I'd be willing to go up a little, but he hasn't developed nearly as much as I would have liked over the past couple of years.

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    That's why I'd say they should trade Pau for an SF now. Even if it's an expiring they would have bird rights to then resign that player. Stanley Johnson should be gettable for MLE money next year. Middleton would be exactly who this team needs, but the Bucks gonna keep him and his contract will be massive
    Pau is more helpful to the team than Johnson likely would be. Regardless, their salary difference would make the trade a mess of extra player who probably dominate the value equation way more than Johnson would anyway.

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    Anyone think we can connect the grizzlies into trading us Temple and Green Straight up for Gasol and either our first or Toronto's? Brings Gasol full circle, let's him have a season playing with his brother. He agrees to retire and give the Griz cap flexibility.
    I'm in favor of a Gasol trade to Memphis so he can play with his brother in his final season.

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    Anyone think we can connect the grizzlies into trading us Temple and Green Straight up for Gasol and either our first or Toronto's? Brings Gasol full circle, let's him have a season playing with his brother. He agrees to retire and give the Griz cap flexibility.
    This does nothing for the Spurs. Temple would be behind Belinelli, Green would be behind Rudy & Davis.

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    Bazemore, Carroll, Ross, Batum
    None of these players are good enough to make any difference. May as well keep assets and give Lonnie an opportunity.

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    What about Ariza for Gasol and Toronto’s pick? Washington’s in tank mode.

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    What about Ariza for Gasol and Toronto’s pick? Washington’s in tank mode.
    Not horrible from a pure cap-savings perspective, but I'm not giving up a first unless it also included a Bryant-for-Pon swap.

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    There isn't any possible deal where Batum comes back to SA that isn't awful for the Spurs. Worst contract in the NBA. Yes, worse than Wall's.
    His contract has nothing to do with his on court play :wink

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    His contract has nothing to do with his on court play :wink
    Yes, and if he were already on the roster, I wouldn't want him benched just because he's horrible bang for his buck. I also wouldn't downplay whatever he did to well because of his salary. But acquiring him is a completely different matter, because his contract totally affects that.

    Plus, I really don't like Batum as a player. Never have, even when he wasn't the worst contract ever. I wouldn't contort myself just to try to make it seem like everything was based in his salary.

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    Isn't there a point in time when we are no longer restricted to the rookie scale and we can offer more than that?
    Really, has anybody watched Milutinov play? I don't mean the stats (they look good), actually watching him playing. On a NBA perspective, he royally sucks. There is zero chance, really, he will ever play significant minutes, if any, in the league.

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    I do think Pau's a good player and could beat out Poe for that rotation spot before it's all over. I don't think playing all three of those guys is sustainable, at least not if the team is going to streak the right way. I'm also all about the team being aggressive in free agency in the summer, so cap space is really valuable in my mind.
    Actually, almost every top team is trying to have three centers to rotate. This doesn't mean Pau has to stay, I am just saying that trading him would only be a move for the future, and bad for this year. This season he is and will be much better than anything you can get back at his position.
    Sure we need a SF (I can't see any available that would make a difference, though), but then at center we would be dramatically exposed once the PO start. I know, PO are hard to get into, but once in anybody can beat everybody (not GS).

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    Pau is more helpful to the team than Johnson likely would be. Regardless, their salary difference would make the trade a mess of extra player who probably dominate the value equation way more than Johnson would anyway.
    I didn't say trade for Johnson. What I meant was move Pau for an SF and then sign Johnson in the offseason. Spurs need wings that can defend

    None of these players are good enough to make any difference. May as well keep assets and give Lonnie an opportunity.
    I disagree. Bazemore is a better fit to our offense than Danny Green and people would love to have Danny back

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    Yes, and if he were already on the roster, I wouldn't want him benched just because he's horrible bang for his buck. I also wouldn't downplay whatever he did to well because of his salary. But acquiring him is a completely different matter, because his contract totally affects that.

    Plus, I really don't like Batum as a player. Never have, even when he wasn't the worst contract ever. I wouldn't contort myself just to try to make it seem like everything was based in his salary.
    I was messing with you. Batum sucks. I don’t want Patty benched because his salary. I hate his contract and regret SA did it. I simply want him to have a very short leash as a player.

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    I don't see any available SFs out there, and I think the three guard rotation looks pretty good with Forbes/White/DeRozan, so I'd be looking more for a center. That would move LMA to his comfort zone at PF, and hopefully help unload Pau's contract.

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    I like Quincy Pondexter more than Batum. Seriously.

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    I hope Demarre Carroll is bought out. I could see Demar and Rudy having a say in him possibly coming to SA.

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    Knowing Popovich, trade is not needed at this point when the team is already starting to jell well. A trade will only disrupt team chemistry.

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    I disagree. Bazemore is a better fit to our offense than Danny Green and people would love to have Danny back
    If they stay healthy, Forbes & White are locks to start from here on out this season. They've been two of the top 5 or 6 best players and a huge part of the resurgence the past 15 games.

    Bazemore would be competing with Belinelli & Mills for minutes. And Pop loves Mills & Belinelli, so goodluck with Bazemore taking those minutes.

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    I disagree, with one of these we would be favorites
    lol...u underestimate the caner that is aldridge...why do u think he couldnt get out the first round with lillard/CJ, and Roy...the guy is allergic to being a second banana...and a playoff choker...we had kawhi...one of the best, if not the best sf in the world...and the guy pouted the entire season and demanded a trade, not because he missed family, but because he didnt shoot more...despite the spurs team being one of the leading teams in assists, and having one of the best records in franchise history...despite absolutely dominating the warriors in game 1, then when left to shoot all the shots, he choked...

    and u think we become favorites with any of those other SF? all who if not worse than kawhi, definitely shoot more than him? LMA will need a binky by time the all star break comes and he isnt on the team

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