Common nonsense gun control

[DMC]

Hey, I’m not the one who’s ignorant about how national government studies get funded.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=221233

From 6 years ago. If you have anything new to add go ahead and post it.

[DMC]

2.8 billion yearly on treating gunshot wounds. I 'll try to find. figure on how many cases that is.

Might be as many as 90,000 Americans yearly:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/fu...haff.2017.0625

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...unshot-wounds/



Better stats ight be easier to find ( that study covers just 8 years) if the US Congress hadn't made it illegal to appropriate money to study it

Wonder why that is?

Not at all, you lie about what I clearly did say and declare victory.

Everyone can see for himself you can't tell a straight tale

When did it become illegal for the CDC to appropriate money? Ever heard of the CDC Foundation?

[Spurtacular]

How re ed do you have be to think this will prevent murders? She compares it to the tax on the frequent usage of cigarettes. Of course this is just another attack on law abiding gun owners. That's the only objective. Let's make is cost prohibitive to practice your second amendment rights and compare the tax to cancer sticks. These people need help. Only you can vote the big government authoritarians out.

It's a money grab under the absurd guise of safety.

[Chucho]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=221233

From 6 years ago. If you have anything new to add go ahead and post it.

Scalps taken in that thread. Amazing how someone can be so contradictary of themselves and still be so sure.

[Nathan89]

It's a money grab under the absurd guise of safety.

It's an attempt to detach Americans from their guns under the guise of safety. They don't care about the money.

[Spurtacular]

It's an attempt to detach Americans from their guns under the guise of safety. They don't care about the money.

Democrats not caring about money.

[DMC]

Democrats not caring about money.

The money wouldn't go to a partisan source but to the government in general. So it's a lever to control gun ownership, nothing more.

[DMC]

Rosenberg worked at the CDC for 20 years, where he was instrumental in founding the NCIPC.[1] He also served as the first permanent director of the NCIPC beginning in 1994.[1] While there, he was responsible for overseeing gun violence research at the CDC prior to the enactment of the 1996 ey Amendment, the Congressional restriction which prevented the CDC from using its funding "to advocate or promote gun control," in 1996.[3] Specifically, advocates of the restrictions referred to comments Rosenberg made in 1994: in a Washington Post article, he was quoted as saying “We need to revolutionize the way we look at guns, like we did with cigarettes. Now it [sic] is dirty, deadly and banned.” The same year Dr. Katherine Christoffel, head of the CDC funded Handgun Epidemic Lowering Plan, said in an interview with American Medical News "guns are a virus that must be eradicated...." In the same interview Rosenberg concurred with Christoffel, saying "...she’s not willing to be silent anymore. She’s asking for help.”[4]


: "why can't the CDC get public funding for fact finding? They are neutral, science driven minds!"

[Nathan89]

Muh narrative.

[spurraider21]

Creating a "pay to exercise your rights" situation disenfranchises people, especially the poor black and Hispanic people the left purports to defend. These same people are somehow being disenfranchised by being required to have a voter ID, but if you want to charge them their weekly salary to buy a box of ammo, that's ok. Mr wealthy white man will have no problem buying all the guns and ammo he wants, it's the poor who's rights will be infringed upon as they are priced out of the 2nd Amendment.

Great idea. Keep going with it. No one ever thought of just raising prices. Surely no new underground markets would emerge to fill the demand.

Yeah everybody buys black market cigarettes.

dumbass

[CosmicCowboy]

I notice you ignored my reply after asking me a direct question, then turned around and slapped boutons for acting like himself.

So tuff!

I just saw your response. As usual they included suicides/attempted suicides which are the bulk of gun stats so their statistics are bull .

[DMC]

Yeah everybody buys black market cigarettes.

dumbass

I didn't mention cigarettes. I guess if you can't find something to disagree with you just pull something out of your ass again. Why don't you grow up already?

[Winehole23]

When did it become illegal for the CDC to appropriate money? Ever heard of the CDC Foundation?

the CDC can't appropriate money, silly man.

[Winehole23]

I just saw your response. As usual they included suicides/attempted suicides which are the bulk of gun stats so their statistics are bull .

those are gunshot injuries with a real social cost. they are absolutely germane.

guns are designed to shoot people.

[Blake]

that 's hairline taxed her ass.

You don't get to talk about other people's hair while you have a picture of you with a pony tail floating around the internets, hippie.

[Winehole23]

I didn't mention cigarettes. I guess if you can't find something to disagree with you just pull something out of your ass again. Why don't you grow up already?

But you *did* mention cigarettes.

Short term memory loss?

[Winehole23]

So a 20 dollar pack of cigarettes is no impediment since people would still smoke.

[Spurminator]

Using taxation as a policy lever against a cons utional right is quite different from just "increased taxes on guns", when the desired outcome is fewer people with guns so taxation as a backdoor form of gun control which, in reality, only would affect people who cannot afford the increase.

How is that the same as your strawman? Your strawman insinuates a .1% increase on taxes is the same as a 50% increase, as they both violate the 2nd Amendment. Surely you didn't lose your common sense between the Biden thread and this one.

I was mistaken in my post. The comparison shouldn't have been to increased taxes on guns, it should have been to increased taxes on ammo as per the subject of this thread.

What I should have said was "It's an argument that is logically consistent with 'a 50% increase in taxes on ammunition is a 2A violation.'" I see no reason a 50% tax on ammo infringes on the right to bear arms. It's not cost prohibitive nor does it hinder availability. If anything, it encourages gun owners to value ammunition higher and reserve it for its intended use (vs., say, shooting cans at the ranch after a few beers.)

[koriwhat]

You don't get to talk about other people's hair while you have a picture of you with a pony tail floating around the internets, hippie.

I got hair and a lot of it at 37... you? Lol

Btw it wasnt her hair but lack of that i mentioned. Sore spot for you?

[Chucho]

Yeah everybody buys black market cigarettes.

dumbass

You'd be very surprised how large the market is for tax free, black market cigs. There was quite a racket going on in Texas before I left with people buying loads in Lousianna and selling them back there and it's even bigger here in Cali with the poor folk as they can't afford $9-$11 a pack to kill themselves.

[Blake]

I got hair and a lot of it at 37... you? Lol

Btw it wasnt her hair but lack of that i mentioned. Sore spot for you?

You're making fun of something she can't help. I'm making fun of you for something you actually can do something about.

Another example would be if so someone got spur tats on the back of their calves. That's a pretty hilarious thing tbh.

[koriwhat]

You're making fun of something she can't help. I'm making fun of you for something you actually can do something about.

Another example would be if so someone got spur tats on the back of their calves. That's a pretty hilarious thing tbh.

you're trying too hard kind of like how hard you tried in the biden thread. you take offense when you shouldn't considering nothing was directed at you. being the attention you are you pop your head up when you should just go back to hiding in your closet you fruity bas .

you know what's really hilarious? you being a ing cuck. now that's a pretty hilarious thing tbh.

btw, you never answered the question baldy.

[DMC]

But you *did* mention cigarettes.

Short term memory loss?

Where did I mention cigarettes in the post he quoted?

Yeah I didn't think so.

[DMC]

the CDC can't appropriate money, silly man.

Then it's never been illegal. You're the one who said it was and now you're contradicting yourself. Make up your mind you bipolar .

[DMC]

those are gunshot injuries with a real social cost. they are absolutely germane.

guns are designed to shoot people.

You can't stop people from killing themselves. It is not part of the gun violence discussion since shooting yourself in the head is not gun violence it's just suicide. If anything I think we should make suicide easier so methods that have a higher rate of success should be funded heavier. You know how much money the average taxpayer has to pay for people who have unsuccessful suicide attempts?