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    I never said there was a difference.

    Again, where the do you get your impressions from? Your interpretations of what I say are always wrong.

    I said I wasn’t impressed seeing how you’ve put Phoenix at some kind of bar one much reach in order to have the big three.

    You stated that Phoenix wasn't a DFW or Houston, as if SA somehow compared to Phoenix. I was not the only one in this thread who read it that way.

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    Hey MB, I don't think we can convince him.

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    Right. They're just talking with local officials for the of it.
    They're talking to county officials for many reasons. They had to buy the land and they have a huge sports complex in mind. I don't think they'd ignore officials with details.

    Sounds like they aren't asking for any public money for the IRL track.
    And per CEO, the entire complex.

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    You stated that Phoenix wasn't a DFW or Houston, as if SA somehow compared to Phoenix. I was not the only one in this thread who read it that way.
    No, I asked if Phoenix was a DFW/Houston seeing as how you made them the marker.

    And the answer was no.

    So in turn that shot your theory/logic to the ground.

    You're the one who read what you wanted to.

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    Fine, SA can't even match up with a weaker "marker".

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    Here you go...


    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...a.24e7f5c.html

    Race exec makes an Alamo City pit stop

    Web Posted: 10/28/2005 12:00 AM CDT

    Laura Jesse
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    An Indy Racing League-sanctioned street race in San Antonio is a possibility in 2007, but racing enthusiasts shouldn't get their engines revved up just yet.

    Tony George, president of the league and CEO of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, met with city and county officials and investors Thursday about the prospect of bringing a grand prix here for a five-year term.

    "We had a great meeting this morning about some exciting possibilities for San Antonio," George said. "We think that the people who have sort of been putting the thought behind this event here have done a very good job and created at least a very interesting scenario that we believe could work."

    Councilman Kevin Wolff said the plans between the league and HollyHills Development, the developer behind the deal, would be worked out over the next 60 days. They would then come back to present those plans to city officials.

    "HollyHills would be the group that would pay the sanctioning rights for the race," said T.J. Connolly, a local spokesman for the company.

    A potential route presented at the meeting would take the race through the near East Side using the Alamodome as a central point, but the route has not been finalized.

    Although Wolff said the plan looks the best of any he has seen from other racing organizations, there are questions to answer and details to iron out.

    "Is this a good viable thing for the city?" Wolff said. "What's the cost versus the benefit? If the cost outweighs the benefit, well, it ain't happening."

    Wolff said he was pleased to hear George express similar sentiments when he told officials the race won't happen if it's not a good fit for the city or the league.

    George said, however, that a San Antonio race would offer his company the prospect for expansion.

    "South Texas and the Hispanic market represent the opportunity to grow our business and bring economic impact and vitality to what goes on here," he said.

    Mayor Phil Hardberger, who listened in on the meeting by conference call, said the street race idea is very appealing and feasible since it has been done here before.

    "I think San Antonio would love it," he said.

    George indicated that problems from the past San Antonio Grand Prix, which lasted from 1987 to 1992, would have to be addressed to make this plan work.

    The San Antonio Grand Prix was discontinued after five years for various reasons, including the disruption the route and street construction caused, and sponsorship problems.

    In 1991, the Alamo Grand Prix Association scurried to secure a major sponsor after it rejected an offer for sponsorship renewal from Nissan Motor Corp., which had been the main sponsor since the first year.

    Another contributor to the race's demise was the closing of Builders Square, a major sponsor of the event.



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    Wow. SA's gonna get new stadiums fo' sho'.

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    Fine, SA can't even match up with a weaker "marker".
    It's not a weaker marker, you're just too agenda minded.

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    Here you go...



    Wow. SA's gonna get new stadiums fo' sho'.
    You do know what a Grand Prix race is right?

    This has nothing to do with the ing sports complex.

    Jesus do you ever want to make San Antonio look bad and boy do you want it to fail at every corner.

    You are one sad person.

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    San Antonio Kicks every city in Americas Ass...

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    Nope.

    But someone did kick you a few times. That sentence made no sense whatsoever.

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    You do know what a Grand Prix race is right?

    This has nothing to do with the ing sports complex.
    You're right. That's because the idea that some group is going to build two new stadiums for SA without any teams locked in to play in them is ridiculous.

    So the developer wants to see if the city will work with it to run some races down Houston St or whatever.

    Big whoop.


    Jesus do you ever want to make San Antonio look bad and boy do you want it to fail at every corner.

    You are one sad person.
    Sad? I'm not the one trying to suspend reality and make San Antonio something it's not.

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    You're right. That's because the idea that some group is going to build two new stadiums for SA without any teams locked in to play in them is ridiculous.
    But its still happening whether you like it or not.

    So the developer wants to see if the city will work with it to run some races down Houston St or whatever.
    Well, I'd think if they want to have Grand Prix racing downtown, they'd have to talk to the city.



    Sad? I'm not the one trying to suspend reality and make San Antonio something it's not.
    No, instead you're jerking off to your hope of a city failing, to the thought of run down homes on the south side. To the per capita income numbers.

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    You're hoping it's going to happen. The group is talking to the city about running races through city streets, not on a track.

    Look, I have no interest in seeing SA fail. I do have an interest in having a rational discussion about these topics, not one based on rampant speculation and an abnormal lust for the city of San Antonio.

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    Maybe Marky Mark should watch this:

    KENS 5 o'clock news edition:

    http://www2.mysanantonio.com/multime...y=1&format=WMV

    Tell me what she says towards the end.


    Another video:

    KENS 10 o'clock news edition:

    http://www2.mysanantonio.com/multime...y=1&format=WMV
    Last edited by TheWriter; 10-28-2005 at 03:08 AM.

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    You're hoping it's going to happen. The group is talking to the city about running races through city streets, not on a track.
    Haha! So I don't watch the news in my city? Is that what you're telling me?

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    So, did Marky Mark leave?

    No retort?

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    Baseball sucks almost as much as soccer or watching people drive around in circles.

    These are stupid ideas.

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    Say you have access to oh, $1 billion in capital. Does building an IRL track, football and baseball stadiums (with neither leased to a team) on San Antonio's East Side sound like something that will generate a decent return?

    These developers may have some ins utional money thrown their way, but an idea like that is pretty piss poor.

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    Haha! So I don't watch the news in my city? Is that what you're telling me?

    I know you watch television news in your city. You also take pics you took of your TV during those broadcasts and posted them on the internets. There's a term for that sort of activity...
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    All land owned by Bexar is up for grabs to be built on, excluding the the SBC Center of course, but the Freeman and barns are going to be torn down.
    You truly ARE out of your ing mind.

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    CC, why do you hate San Antonio de Bexar?

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    CC, why do you hate San Antonio de Bexar?


    Sorry about that MB...I have this bad habit of trying to use logic and known facts when I read and respond to some of these threads...

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    You're either with San Antonio de Bexar or you are against it.

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    The Freeman/SBC facility and relationship to the county just happens to be an area that I have a lot of expertise in.

    Writer made the flat statement of fact that the Freeman Coliseum and rodeo barns would be torn down.

    #1) The grounds aren't 1100 acres. they are 146 acres.

    #2) When the land was donated to the County to build Freeman Coliseum there was specific language in the donation that the primary use of the land would be to "promote agriculture"...This language was a big issue in getting the bonds to build the SBC approved...The reason that it finally got approved was because the rodeo occupies the SBC for a month and designated portions of the grounds year round.

    sooo...no rodeo, and the County breaches the terms of the land donation...

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    But you don't love San Antonio de Bexar with all your heart, so you can't possibly know about that which you speak.

    And besides, you didn't post any pics.

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