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    They never.....ever ever ever...talk about the Spurs unless it’s backhanded compliments or knocking them down the NBA ladder.

    Duncan great but benefited from system

    Parker great but benefited from system

    Manu great but benefited from system

    System system system



    Kobe without Phil & triangle system - 0, with - 5, “he’s the greatest players of his gen”

    Michael without Phil & triangle system - 0, with - 6, “he’s the undisputed goat”



    Kawhi great but system player

    Kawhi leaves system “hes Michael Jordan”



    The mental gymnastics and contradictions these guys spit everyday is so agenda driven it’s laughable.

    ***and yes I’m aware the triangle offense belonged to Tex winter


    In some ways, '14 was the worst thing that ever happened to Duncan's "legacy". The revisionist history of his career is derived from that (same with s bag undeservedly winning Finals MVP).

    What the ignorant masses don't realize, is that if any of these previous great players were coming up today, their games would match the era.

    Also, this diminishing of bigs is unfounded. Bigs appear to be less valuable, but that's primarily because the best players of this generation aren't bigs . . . but the best young players are. When the late 80s born superstars are past their prime in a few years and the early-mid 90s born enter theirs, the game is going to return to bigs, even if most don't play like the bigs of yesteryear.

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    They never.....ever ever ever...talk about the Spurs unless it’s backhanded compliments or knocking them down the NBA ladder.

    Duncan great but benefited from system

    Parker great but benefited from system

    Manu great but benefited from system

    System system system



    Kobe without Phil & triangle system - 0, with - 5, “he’s the greatest players of his gen”

    Michael without Phil & triangle system - 0, with - 6, “he’s the undisputed goat”



    Kawhi great but system player

    Kawhi leaves system “hes Michael Jordan”



    The mental gymnastics and contradictions these guys spit everyday is so agenda driven it’s laughable.

    ***and yes I’m aware the triangle offense belonged to Tex winter
    Truth

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    In some ways, '14 was the worst thing that ever happened to Duncan's "legacy". The revisionist history of his career is derived from that (same with s bag undeservedly winning Finals MVP).

    What the ignorant masses don't realize, is that if any of these previous great players were coming up today, their games would match the era.

    Also, this diminishing of bigs is unfounded. Bigs appear to be less valuable, but that's primarily because the best players of this generation aren't bigs . . . but the best young players are. When the late 80s born superstars are past their prime in a few years and the early-mid 90s born enter theirs, the game is going to return to bigs, even if most don't play like the bigs of yesteryear.
    If they had just closed out in 2013, he would’ve won finals mvp in 3 different decades. Dammit Pop.

    I mean Andre freaking Iguadal won finals MVP . Did the system get the credit?

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    If they had just closed out in 2013, he would’ve won finals mvp in 3 different decades. Dammit Pop.

    I mean Andre freaking Iguadal won finals MVP . Did the system get the credit?
    He should have won it in '14 anyway (with Ginobili a close 2nd). I've long said Finals MVP should really be playoffs MVP, especially considering the real Finals often occur before the actual one.

    Both of those were really the media's way of saying James deserved it, but couldn't win it in series where his team not only lost, but wasn't even semi close (at least in '14). Funny how the media has now decided that s bag, who was a souped-up version of Bowen/Green back then, pulled a prime Jordan, O'Neal, Duncan, James, etc.

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    If Tim Duncan was in the draft this year, all 30 teams in the NBA would have tanked trying to get the #1 pick! Lol

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    If Tim Duncan was in the draft this year, all 30 teams in the NBA would have tanked trying to get the #1 pick! Lol
    Facts!!

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    If Tim Duncan was in the draft this year, all 30 teams in the NBA would have tanked trying to get the #1 pick! Lol
    No, Spurs will not tank, Pop likes short guard.

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    Duncan has 25 FIRST HALF points against Queen in a close out NBA Finals game in year 16. Two years later he averaged 18 and 11 in the first round at age 38. It was only his last year the wheels fell off. And he still scored 19 pts in his last game ever.
    He had one wobbly donut wheel left when he was our best player against the Clips when kawhitter was getting owned by Matt Barnes

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    He had one wobbly donut wheel left when he was our best player against the Clips when kawhitter was getting owned by Matt Barnes
    everyone likes to blame kawhi for getting shut down in that series

    how come nobody mentions parker who the bed against a injured cp3 for that series?

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    Young Duncan could get any shot he wanted. Play up on him and he could beat you off the step, give him space and his bank shot was automatic. in' guy tore his knee up in 2000 and only was forced into retirement 20 years later once the other knee went, yet Duncan anchoring those 2013-2014 spurs runs at damn near 40 wouldn't have been able to adjust to today's NBA in his younger years with good knees and all the other benefits that youth brings. Meanwhile a slower, less athletic big is getting whatever he wants in the NBA playoffs right now as we speak, but TD wouldn't be as effective .

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    Cringe. He was literally effective a few seasons ago playing on one leg at 39. It was only another knee injury that finally did him in.

    So how the would a prime Timmy who went up against tougher defenses not be effective? As if he wasn't taking jumpers even back then. Gottlieb never fails to say something stupid.

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    everyone likes to blame kawhi for getting shut down in that series

    how come nobody mentions parker who the bed against a injured cp3 for that series?
    Parker was injured and had no lift on his jump shot. The blame is on Pop for overplaying him while Mills was averaging 13 points

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    ...I've seen photos of him actually practicing whayever training stuff with his personal trainer...looks in perfect shape...franckly, I think he could still be today our starting center. His game is perfect for today nba...also 'cause he could still add and develop a 3 point shoot...

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    You got stiffs like Joel embiid hobbling down the floor shooting like 25 % from 3 making the all-star team and you don't think Duncan would be effective today?

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    When you make a thread like this, you acknowledge the existence of this guy as an analyst who's opinion we should listen, not good.

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    Young Duncan could get any shot he wanted. Play up on him and he could beat you off the step, give him space and his bank shot was automatic. in' guy tore his knee up in 2000 and only was forced into retirement 20 years later once the other knee went, yet Duncan anchoring those 2013-2014 spurs runs at damn near 40 wouldn't have been able to adjust to today's NBA in his younger years with good knees and all the other benefits that youth brings. Meanwhile a slower, less athletic big is getting whatever he wants in the NBA playoffs right now as we speak, but TD wouldn't be as effective .
    The obsession of the 3 point shot has hurt the overall quality of the game, and skewed perceptions of what is dominant and effective play. Watching guys like Harden dribble, dribble, dribble, and jack up a step back 3 does not win you championships. Also the lack of defense, and the rules tailored to teams basically barely having to play it also has screwed up peoples perceptions of the great and dominant play in the NBA. Duncan is one of the best defenders of all time. A dominant post game, great passer, leader, every intangible in the book. 5 rings for god's sake and a 3 time finals MVP. But oh no he is not a sharpshooting 3 point guy... ing idiots in the media..

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