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    I am very curious why ST, in general, are so against Bol yet not Clarke or Grant Williams who have legit issues too.
    Bol has a weird physique, and is extremely inexperienced at high level basketball. He only played a few games at Oregon. Williams and Clarke have played a few seasons of NCAA ball, and probably more seasons, combined, than Bol played games.

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    Slow on defense, going to get killed on switches. Weak under the basket, going to get folded in half by stronger players. Not a hard worker by reputation. Weak body susceptible to injuries, won’t be able to count on him lasting through the season.

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    Slow on defense, going to get killed on switches. Weak under the basket, going to get folded in half by stronger players. Not a hard worker by reputation. Weak body susceptible to injuries, won’t be able to count on him lasting through the season.
    Load Management. Its all the craze these days.

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    Bol has a weird physique, and is extremely inexperienced at high level basketball. He only played a few games at Oregon. Williams and Clarke have played a few seasons of NCAA ball, and probably more seasons, combined, than Bol played games.

    I get that he has a very unusual body type; tall, long, very thin. He has a better than 50% bust rate but also probably has a much higher ceiling than either Williams or Clarke. Less tape leads to more questions on top of his proportions, then again, more tape on Williams and Clarke lead to a lot of questions about their games.

    Williams is an very undersized full time 4, meh athlete, best skills are his post game but probably won't be able to do so when even the 3's that play the 4 are bigger. Seems like his most likely outcome is a good bench PF rather than a starter.

    Clarke is already 23, probably a 5, undersized and small arms, relies on his freak athleticism that could mean he'd be in for a big drop off in production around 30 when that starts to go. Going to struggle to defend in the post but will likely need to do so because one of his best skill is his shot blocking.

    Ultimately, i'd probably pass on Bol, but would on the others too.

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    The foot injury, to me, is a red flag. Especially for tall players. So you have that on top off all the other pink flags. So, in other words, we are going to pick him at 29.

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    Ill take him at 19. Not sure the Spurs will based on how they treated Boban. But Bol might be fast enough for the Spurs to consider him.

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    I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting him but I’d rather a team before us at 19 pick him lol

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    After what the spurs had to deal with in Kawhi's injury saga. I'm not sure the spurs would want to deal with another injury risk player.

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    I wonder what he smokes out of

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    I get that he has a very unusual body type; tall, long, very thin. He has a better than 50% bust rate but also probably has a much higher ceiling than either Williams or Clarke. Less tape leads to more questions on top of his proportions, then again, more tape on Williams and Clarke lead to a lot of questions about their games.

    Williams is an very undersized full time 4, meh athlete, best skills are his post game but probably won't be able to do so when even the 3's that play the 4 are bigger. Seems like his most likely outcome is a good bench PF rather than a starter.

    Clarke is already 23, probably a 5, undersized and small arms, relies on his freak athleticism that could mean he'd be in for a big drop off in production around 30 when that starts to go. Going to struggle to defend in the post but will likely need to do so because one of his best skill is his shot blocking.

    Ultimately, i'd probably pass on Bol, but would on the others too.
    The Stepien is extremely high on Williams. They see him not only as a post player, but as an offense initiator, sort of a Diaw, I guess. Anyway, in a recent article, they said that after Zion, Williams picked between 24-40 would be the draft's second best move.

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    well he has the moving ty illegal screen down that the nba loves

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    If Bol Bol is available at 19, you have to take him. The talent is too much to pass up for a guy with his height. However, I think it's a lock that he gone in the lottery and maybe even top 10.

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    Im hoping he’s gone tbh, I would have more negative than positive feelings if he fell in the spurs laps.

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    Mixed feelings tbh. Of all the players in this draft, I think this is the one that will go extreme in one way or the other. That said, I think I roll the dice if he's there at 19

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    Don’t understand how you wouldn’t take the chance on Bol, there isn’t one player in this entire draft with his skill set. He has all star potential imo. Injury concerns or not.

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    Don’t understand how you wouldn’t take the chance on Bol, there isn’t one player in this entire draft with his skill set. He has all star potential imo. Injury concerns or not.
    I don't see him being able to play enough minutes to be a minor star, let alone an All Star. He can be played off the court on defense by repeated switches. He's not like Claxton, with the overall twitch and quickness to switch onto guards. His lateral quickness is for , and he'll get blown by. I see a really skinny weak Ibaka, minus the lateral quickness.

    From probasketballtalk on NBC's web site, today:

    https://nba.nbcsports.com/2019/06/13...ay-or-another/

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    What’s the difference besides Injury between him and when Kristaps before the draft?

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    Just one other minorly relevant factoid: the NBA wants 20 players in their green room. They basically discretely canvas teams about who they might pick. The list, so far, with 16 players on it:

    Zion Williamson, Ja Morant, R.J. Barrett, De'Andre Hunter, Jarrett Culver, Darius Garland, Coby White, Cam Reddish, Jaxson Hayes, Sekou Doumbouya, Nassir Little, Brandon Clarke, Rui Hachimura, P.J. Washington, Tyler Herro, and Romeo Langford.

    These players have not yet been chose:

    Keldon Johnson, Oregon center Bol Bol, Georgian center Goga Bitadze, USC guard Kevin Porter, Virginia Tech guard Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Georgia center Nicolas Claxton, North Carolina forward Cameron Johnson and Tennessee forward Grant Williams

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    What’s the difference besides Injury between him and when Kristaps before the draft?
    You're kidding, right? Bol Bol is LITERALLY a stick, 208 lbs at the combine. He is a fantastic weak side shot blocker, but (also literally) can guard no one. He also doesn't have a post game to speak of.

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    #19 seems like a pretty big gamble much less a lottery pick, but det upside is tantalizing.

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    #19 seems like a pretty big gamble much less a lottery pick, but det upside is tantalizing.
    He's a prospect of extremes, good and awful. His height and length are outstanding. His weight is appalling. He blocks shots very well and shoots the 3 very well. Other than shotblocking, he really can't defend at all against any sized player.

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    He's a prospect of extremes, good and awful. His height and length are outstanding. His weight is appalling. He blocks shots very well and shoots the 3 very well. Other than shotblocking, he really can't defend at all against any sized player.
    Yeah, fortunately you can project that he's not going to be able to put on weight from the example of his father.

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    Just one other minorly relevant factoid: the NBA wants 20 players in their green room. They basically discretely canvas teams about who they might pick. The list, so far, with 16 players on it:

    Zion Williamson, Ja Morant, R.J. Barrett, De'Andre Hunter, Jarrett Culver, Darius Garland, Coby White, Cam Reddish, Jaxson Hayes, Sekou Doumbouya, Nassir Little, Brandon Clarke, Rui Hachimura, P.J. Washington, Tyler Herro, and Romeo Langford.

    These players have not yet been chose:

    Keldon Johnson, Oregon center Bol Bol, Georgian center Goga Bitadze, USC guard Kevin Porter, Virginia Tech guard Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Georgia center Nicolas Claxton, North Carolina forward Cameron Johnson and Tennessee forward Grant Williams
    Goga was the 17th player invited.

    So, yeah, decent shot that the Spurs at least have to contemplate Bol at 19.

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    Just one other minorly relevant factoid: the NBA wants 20 players in their green room. They basically discretely canvas teams about who they might pick. The list, so far, with 16 players on it:

    Zion Williamson, Ja Morant, R.J. Barrett, De'Andre Hunter, Jarrett Culver, Darius Garland, Coby White, Cam Reddish, Jaxson Hayes, Sekou Doumbouya, Nassir Little, Brandon Clarke, Rui Hachimura, P.J. Washington, Tyler Herro, and Romeo Langford.

    These players have not yet been chose:

    Keldon Johnson, Oregon center Bol Bol, Georgian center Goga Bitadze, USC guard Kevin Porter, Virginia Tech guard Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Georgia center Nicolas Claxton, North Carolina forward Cameron Johnson and Tennessee forward Grant Williams
    Sucks man, that Rashard Lewis interview was the best thing I have ever seen at the draft. Never to be repeated.

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