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    I don't understand Spurs fans who think this would be bad news. Spurs fans should want Neph to stay in the East. Nephew coming back West and torturing the Spurs for the rest of his career is by far the worst case scenario.

    The trade is done; Spurs fans should want him to stay in the East; any other thinking is being skewed by the sunk cost fallacy, tbh.
    There is revisionist history going on here. Waiting guaranteed nothing to the Spurs. The Group tanked his trade value due to shutting himself down in early 2018 and then stringing the Spurs players and management all the way to the end of the season.

    Other teams were not going to give up a big package given what Nephew did last season - he hardly played and he is still not right physically. The only option was to keep him (and risk another "medical holdout" or get a deeply discounted deal. Once again, it is a rotten situation.

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    The front office including Pop is an example of where arrogance and ego by those who work off the court thought they were more important then those who are on the court. Actually, this is not that unusual and happens in business all the time. It is the number one reason good employees leave their employer.
    I’ll admit that whatever they did to turn Kawhi off from being a lifelong spur was a major up, but I’ll give them a few years to straighten the ship. If anyone can do it, it’s PATFO.

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    if this is confirmed, the scenario changes from "he wants to go to LA anyway" to "he wants to get out of SA anyway", this for me is much more serious.
    It might seem that way, but it wasn't really. Kawhi did not want to go to Toronto, but he likes it now and sees that the Raptors is a good place for him. Also, he did not want to play though the pain, but now he sees that as well.

    To me it is ironic, that he left the Spurs to play for Toronto, who aren't as good as we were, remember we were beating a much better version of this GS team by 25+ and he doing what the Spurs wanted him to do. Manage his minutes throughout the reg season and play through pain, but I guess that wasn't good enough for him then.

    At any rate, I would be surprised if any team offers him a super max long term deal given his health issues.

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    No matter what happens, Spurs will be the biggest losers here.. So it's better for us if he stays east.

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    Yeah I’m kinda hoping he stays, then KD goes east too. That’s good news for all teams in the west lol

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    valuing patty mills over Kawhi
    paying Gasol to collect retirement checks

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    valuing patty mills over Kawhi
    paying Gasol to collect retirement checks
    That's the front office being ing dumb.

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    If he signs, he'll sign a 1-year deal to then be eligible for the supermax

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    Couldnt imagine some of you taking rejection in real life...

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    Yeah I’m kinda hoping he stays, then KD goes east too. That’s good news for all teams in the west lol
    That's good news for the entire sport. The NBA is ed if the Super Team Ball era continues on.

    Good to see the LA myth is dead. Someone just needs to tell ESPN, tho.
    Good to see players hate other players. Grudges add emotion to the sport. Rivalries are necessary in sports
    Good to see 1 individual star breaking this mold, despite his past treachery.
    Good to see some equality between the conferences after 22 years of Western superiority.

    Maybe these players will continue to progress to a compe ive spirit instead of the prevailing Super Best Friends mentality, grab their balls and be manly and give the fans a product everyone can cheer for and not just a barge for hardcores to bandwagon on and another for the other 50% to from.

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    It might also be that Uncle Dennis sees how much hype Kawhi got there and thus wants him to stay there. Toronto ain't too far from NY and NY was always an option for them. I don't buy that it's set in stone though

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    Why would they lay their cards on the table now? Leonard may like the fact that he can do whatever he wants up there and sit out games without any pushback.

    But make no mistake. He will get to June 30th and listen to all suitors. Nephew is a mercenary now.

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    valuing patty mills over Kawhi
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    The tiest fanbase around. PATFO dealed with uncle the best way they could. Which Spurs do you know rather that the one run by PATFO? Our greatnes belongs to him and his "soul box". jajajja

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    if this is confirmed, the scenario changes from "he wants to go to LA anyway" to "he wants to get out of SA anyway", this for me is much more serious.
    Exactly.

    Its amazing how people still dont understand this situation

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    valuing patty mills over Kawhi
    Are you seriously THAT fvcking dumb?

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    Here is my question. Do you really want to bring him back long-term? Commit serious money to him considering he is limping around out there right now, apparently has knee tendinitis along with all of the quad issues. And he is still supposed to be in his prime in terms of age. This dude is so injury prone, I don’t know about committing major money in years to him?

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    Umm No

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    If he signs, he'll sign a 1-year deal to then be eligible for the supermax
    He came into the league in 2011, so he’s in his eighth season. He won’t be eligible for the supermax (35% of cap) because he switched teams until after year ten.

    Raptors can sign him to higher annual escalators and a fifth year, but think he will sign a 2 year deal with a player option in year three no matter where he goes. He can get 35% of cap opting out after year 2.

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    Not surprised if true. Toronto is a great town. He’ll have the East on lock. They’ve gone out of their way to make him feel welcomed. Drake, etc.

    I’d feel stupid if I was Boston and Lakers right about now. I’m actually impressed the Spurs stayed the course a looked for the best offer available, and not some dog package headlined by Covington, Kuzma, or Rosier. F that.
    Lakers never were gonna get Kawhi via trade Boston is the loser especially if Kyrie walks AD doesn't come and Tatum never becomes a Kawhi level star

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    Lakers never were gonna get Kawhi via trade Boston is the loser especially if Kyrie walks AD doesn't come and Tatum never becomes a Kawhi level star
    Good.

    Ainge is a rotten kid.

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    Here is my question. Do you really want to bring him back long-term? Commit serious money to him considering he is limping around out there right now, apparently has knee tendinitis along with all of the quad issues. And he is still supposed to be in his prime in terms of age. This dude is so injury prone, I don’t know about committing major money in years to him?
    Every team in the league will do so if they can.. Even 1-2 years of healthy Kawhi is worth more than 5 years of the fake stars that are getting the max currently. It's a no brainer really.

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    If he signs, he'll sign a 1-year deal to then be eligible for the supermax
    THIS!

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    Are you seriously THAT fvcking dumb?
    Not as stupid as this front office was apparently. But it's okay we got your empty stats boy to make people like timvp rave over his non-impact 20/6/6 numbers.

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    Not as stupid as this front office was apparently. But it's okay we got your empty stats boy to make people like timvp rave over his non-impact 20/6/6 numbers.
    There was nothing the Spurs could do...they had to get rid of the toxic situation it had become...KL wanted out ASAP...KL/group tanked his value so no team wanted to risk giving up the farm for a guy who may or may not be healthy enough to play...its not complicated...its hard to put a lot of blame on the Spurs for not getting more...also what was the alternative?...hold onto him another year and have to go through the same bull ?...you don't know what went on the last time Pop met with KL...it didn't go well obviously hence the trade

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