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    The press we read....

    Which oligarchs Control it so that you can state we are an oligarchy?
    Our press is run by which power structure that does not want the truth out? that people above have used numerous times to lead them to the truth that we are not a democracy?

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    "So we have never been a democracy?"

    nope, founded by mostly wealthy white male elite landowners, the original oligarchy, that FEARED the uneducated, unruly, poor, dirty demos, creating the Electoral College as protective barrier between the feared election of a tyrant by the feared demos.

    The higher class EC was to nullify the will of the people and elect a President acceptable the oligarchy.

    FFs were so democratic that they excluded from voting all women, blacks, Indians.

    The FFs also created the non-proportional, anti-democratic Senate, which now has been weaponized by the contemporary oligarchy as barrier against the demos and as means to politicize the Federal judiciary

    "Or we were a democracy during certain periods (please name them)"

    The wealthy male oligarchy has always been a threat to USA, as it has been always in human history.

    The most democratic periods were FDR's 1930s progressivism (violently resisted by the oligarchy) through the mid-70s,

    and then the WWII postwar period where the oligarchy was heavily taxed and the Repugs actually gave a tiny about governing for all of America.

    Since the oligarchy became energized, focused, organized by Lewis Powell's famous memo in the early 1970's, America of the non-oligarchy has been going to the s, while the oligarchy has "returned America to historical form", ruled by the oligarchy, with Capital enslaving Labor to indebted penury.

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    Boots is in.
    Never.

    white guys.

    Boots... you need to get on a textbook selection committee.
    And your analysis of the reasons for the EC contradicts many historIans who study this.
    What about a parliamentary system. Where people don’t get their own vote on PM like GB?

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    We are the United STATES of America - not the United Peoples of America or the United Citizens of America. Each state has its own laws, rules, taxes, etc. and its own SAY in who becomes president. These states who are voting to follow the popular vote are crazy - they are giving up THEIR OWN say/votes in who is president in favor of people basically in big cities/coastal areas.

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    And your analysis of the reasons for the EC contradicts many historIans who study this.
    link?

    The EC was the FF's escape valve if the feared demos popular vote went to someone unacceptable to the oligarchy.

    The EC electors supposedly were to be better, trustable, more serious people (men) than the demos

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    We are the United STATES of America - not the United Peoples of America or the United Citizens of America. Each state has its own laws, rules, taxes, etc. and its own SAY in who becomes president. These states who are voting to follow the popular vote are crazy - they are giving up THEIR OWN say/votes in who is president in favor of people basically in big cities/coastal areas.
    So we cannot be at Federation of states and be a democracy at the same time.
    Wow I have never read that do you have stumbled upon big news.

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    link?

    The EC was the FF's escape valve if the feared demos popular vote went to someone unacceptable to the oligarchy.

    The EC electors supposedly were to be better, trustable, more serious people (men) than the demos
    Oh for god sake just wiki and look at all the reasoning not what you choose to be the most important points.
    While you’re at it get a definition for democracy.

    And then read some history because the role of the delegates has changed drastically.
    Why do you even care ed and un ed? It doesn’t really matter you ha e already stated this.

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