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    Trades I'd do:

    -Crabbe + De'Andre Hunter puts the Hawks in the playoffs tbh (though Hunter has underwhelmed)
    -Batum + Marvin Williams provided they are confident they can pull a Boris-type reclamation project on Batum
    -Covington + Dieng
    -Winslow + James Johnson
    -Aaron Gordon + pieces
    they moved up a lot to take hunter. they're not dumping him after summer league

    batum can shoot, and i see your point with a potential reclamation, but his contract is riskier than derozan, since demar may still opt out for one more big deal, whereas there is 0% chance of batum opting out in 2020

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    they moved up a lot to take hunter. they're not dumping him after summer league
    Yeah but....Comp10 tbh.

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    The only player from Detroit that interests me would be Sekou and the salaries obviously don't come close. I wouldn't want Snell and Galloway taking away minutes from the better guards that are already on the Spurs.
    DeRozan+Belinelli for Griffin works $wise.But BG has a player option for 2021-22 for 38mil$ and that makes it a no-no.

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    The teams that supposedly are talking to the Spurs are Orlando, Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota. There aren't any players that stand out to me that would really improve the Spurs. Otto Porter Jr? Zach Leaving? Blake Griffin? Aaron Gordon? Wiggins? Covington?
    Blake Griffin is an interesting name, but damn he takes up $39M in 2021 cap space and by then he will be 31. He fits the starting lineup like a glove, he hit 36% of his 7 threes per game last year. I would be scared of injury risk though. The Spurs would need assets to take on that contract, and I don't think Detroit has what the Spurs want.

    Wiggins is trash, and I don't think the Wolves have (or are willing to part with) enough assets to offset that terrible contract. Covington is a nice piece but the Spurs would need much more.

    Gordon also slides right in as a starting 4, and his 35% on threes is passable. His cap hit in 2021-2022 is also much more manageable at $16.4M, and he's only 23 right now. I prefer this route, though it might be better to just keep DeRozan and focus on adding two high impact players in 2021 free agency.

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    The teams that supposedly are talking to the Spurs are Orlando, Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota. There aren't any players that stand out to me that would really improve the Spurs. Otto Porter Jr? Zach Leaving? Blake Griffin? Aaron Gordon? Wiggins? Covington?
    OP would be nice, and a better fit than DD. He would also likely opt out in a barren FA class next summer. Other than their contracts being nearly identical in amount and structure, he's the anti-DD, defending and shooting the 3, but not a premium scorer like DD can be.

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    If true, I'm guessing the Bulls would want to move LaVine (because Porter Jr. is a much better fit with LaVine or DeRozan), so a three team trade with the Magic could make sense, with them receiving LaVine, the Spurs receiving Gordon and other players involved to make the math work.

    With where they're at and the age differential, the Bulls choosing DeRozan over LaVine doesn't make much sense though.

    I'm guessing the Timberwolves would want to salary dump Wiggins (with the added bonus of improving short term by getting the rich man's version). Even with a lottery protected 1st added, obviously the Spurs should have no interest.

    The Magic are the team that stands out. Weltman, their GM, was the Raptors GM a few years ago. They're trying to win, obviously need a go-to perimeter player and can't attract stars in free agency. They also drafted Okeke and signed Aminu, seemingly indicating that Gordon is on the block. Gordon is a virtual ideal fit for the Spurs. It checks a lot of boxes.


    though it might be better to just keep DeRozan and focus on adding two high impact players in 2021 free agency.


    Let's be real, unless they're from and or have family reasons to live here or are European, no "high impact player" signing here. A Gordon caliber player is probably about the best they can do anyway.

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    If true, I'm guessing the Bulls would want to move LaVine (because Porter Jr. is a much better fit with LaVine or DeRozan), so a three team trade with the Magic could make sense, with them receiving LaVine, the Spurs receiving Gordon and other players involved to make the math work.

    With where they're at and the age differential, the Bulls choosing DeRozan over LaVine doesn't make much sense though.

    I'm guessing the Timberwolves would want to salary dump Wiggins (with the added bonus of improving short term by getting the rich man's version). Even with a lottery protected 1st added, obviously the Spurs should have no interest.

    The Magic are the team that stands out. Weltman, their GM, was the Raptors GM a few years ago. They're trying to win, obviously need a go-to perimeter player and can't attract stars in free agency. They also drafted Okeke and signed Aminu, seemingly indicating that Gordon is on the block. Gordon is a virtual ideal fit for the Spurs. It checks a lot of boxes.
    Gordon's a HORRIBLE fit. He can't shoot any better than DD can, and doesn't have ANY dribble drive or pull up game like DD does. Just keep DD rather than a backwards trade to get Gordon.

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    The teams that supposedly are talking to the Spurs are Orlando, Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota. There aren't any players that stand out to me that would really improve the Spurs. Otto Porter Jr? Zach Leaving? Blake Griffin? Aaron Gordon? Wiggins? Covington?
    2 of the 4 teams I thought I think Gordon makes a ton of sense. I think Otto is a perfect fit. Also think Cov could be a target if picks involved.

    Detroit would be def more a 3 team imo

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    I'd want zero part of Griffin, Lavine, or Wiggins obviously.

    See ya Bryn:
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    I'd want zero part of Griffin, Lavine, or Wiggins obviously.

    See ya Bryn:
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    Why do we need a PF and a SG?

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    Why do we need a PF and a SG, especially one who's on the shelf for a good while?

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    Lol yeah I'm sure Indy will be all over that offer

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    He likely won't get an extension here, right?

    So, picks and expirings should be the target.

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    The only trade offer than I would consider would be DD, forbes and Belinelli for Fournier and Gordon. This talk about Batum for Derozan needs to stop. Why would the Spurs trade a productive player for a guy who's been trash for the past 5 seasons?

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    Gordon's a HORRIBLE fit. He can't shoot any better than DD can, and doesn't have ANY dribble drive or pull up game like DD does. Just keep DD rather than a backwards trade to get Gordon.
    Wrong. He's a better, more willing and still improving 3-point shooter, with some off the dribble ability.

    The pressure he initially had with the Magic wouldn't exist here. It'd be akin to Iguodala being miscast as the 76ers post Iverson "savior" before converting to his ideal swiss army knife role with the Nuggets and Warriors.

    Spurs don't need DeRozan's inefficient garbage and the rotational gymnastics required with him. Redistributing those possessions through a myriad of options (mainly the 3 young guards), while improving defensively, would make them better overall.

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    Reggie to third team, Sekou & Galloway to SA, asset for Reggie to SA, DeRozan to Detroit

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    DeRozan for Gordon and Okeke

    DeRozan for Crabbe/Reddish/Fernando

    Either one would be good. Kind of like the Orlando deal better

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    He likely won't get an extension here, right?

    So, picks and expirings should be the target.
    He is not getting an extension from my understanding

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    I don't think Derozan gets traded unless the Spurs really think that they can get a player that can really help them. Derozan is a very, very good player, but he doesn't fit well with the team. He whines too much when things aren't going his way. He doesn't shoot the three well and his defense isn't all that. The Spurs also have Walker and White who can step in to take Derozan's spot. I think he's a great person and fits in well as far as being low-key, but his game doesn't fit. I'd be very surprised if they trade him, but it makes sense I guess.

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    If you don’t trade him now his value goes way down.

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    If you don’t trade him now his value goes way down.
    Yeah but you don't trade him for trash.

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    Why do we need a PF and a SG?
    Murrary/Fatboy
    White/Walker
    Fournier/Carroll
    Gordon/Gay/Lyles
    LMA/Poetl

    Feels a lot better than:

    Murrary/Fatboy
    White/Forbes/Beli
    Derozan/Walker
    Gay/Carroll/Lyles
    LMA/Poetl

    tbh.

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    Why do we need a PF and a SG, especially one who's on the shelf for a good while?
    You didn't like a trade for Oladipo after posting six bull tastes that make us worse?

    Anyway, no way does Indiana trade their local guy who is as good as he is.

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