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    Funny I was just saying to LJ that they AREN'T stacked for years to come. This year's bench is pretty old. And the only one of the overseas players that I see ever coming is MAYBE Mahinmi in 3 years or so. I'm not worried about the Spurs at all, but I wish they'd eventually get that young, athletic forward here to start grooming. Pop talked about it a lot in the last two offseasons but it still hasn't materialized.
    If they have signed Oberto, I see no reason not to sign Javtokas.
    For mahinmi, I say one or two years.
    Correct me if I'm wrong : They were looking for a small forward, not for a power forward. Ford hasn't the perimeter play to play SF ?

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    Close enough. He was looking to stay in the league after Byron Scott basically said he was uncoachable. He played on the Spurs' summerleague team, looking for a job. That's hardly what you would expect someone who wasn't on the bubble in the league to do.
    You can become coachable but you can't become talented.

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    Talent can be developed into something useful on the NBA level.

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    Oh, I'm sure you'd like to develop Ford's "young prospects."

    I blame this on Rasho!
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    If you see TD getting 35 minutes a night and Horry getting around 15, that leaves 46 minutes for the other bigs. That's a rather significant chunk of time.
    You don't think Nazr, Rasho and Oberto can handle 46 minutes?

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    Smeagol, MB was questioning, I think, the number of minutes if the Spurs move Rasho. Leaving 46 minutes for Oberto and Nazr.

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    All right Ford! Well done!

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    Smeagol, MB was questioning, I think, the number of minutes if the Spurs move Rasho. Leaving 46 minutes for Oberto and Nazr.
    Fair enough.

    Although I think Horry can play 20 minutes and Nazr and Oberto can play the balance (40 minutes).

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    Ah, if you get rid of Rasho just activate Marks or dust off Massenburg. Why are you all so worried about such an obviously worthless player?

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    Its pointless to try to change MB's mind. Its like chasing the wind. For some reason he is worried about the future of this team when all they can do is take care of today.

    The reason the owner/owners don't want to spend extra $$ on Ford is because of the future you dork. If they give $$ to players who need to develop then they can't sign free agents who become available in the future. Why do you think the Spurs were able to sign guys like Oberto, Finley, & Van Exel? Because they know how to manage money.

    There are a lot of teams who wish they were in the financial situation the Spurs are in.

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    Spurs were after James and then he ended up with the Suns. Indications were they might be interested in Dupree but the T Wolves grabbed him for a pick.

    Maybe Pop just hasn't been able to get the guys he thinks are really worth investing the time in. I'll bet if RC and Pop felt really strongly there was a guy out there worth getting Holt would spring for it but no of them want to piss away time and money on a long shot.

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    3 les in 7 years with Holt as owner and people still wanna bag on this ownership because they didn't keep 2 undrafted players.

    Would it have been nice? Sure, I always liked when I saw two or three players in suits sitting behind the bench. Now we only have one.

    Bummer.

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    Its pointless to try to change MB's mind. Its like chasing the wind. For some reason he is worried about the future of this team when all they can do is take care of today.
    Ridiculous. If they sign a young player and start grooming him now then they could very well end up with a solid role player tomorrow. There is plenty of precedent for the current coaching staff being able to do this. Have you not been paying attention?


    The reason the owner/owners don't want to spend extra $$ on Ford is
    because of the future you dork.
    eh, suck a , 'nerd'.


    If they give $$ to players who need to develop then they can't sign free agents who become available in the future. Why do you think the Spurs were able to sign guys like Oberto, Finley, & Van Exel? Because they know how to manage money.
    Oh please. We are talking about peanuts in the NBA. A ing rookie contract. They've done it before and I find it hard to believe that is going to make a huge difference in their operating performance as well as financial position over the next couple of years.


    There are a lot of teams who wish they were in the financial situation the Spurs are in.

    Sure, the Spurs have a sweetheart arena deal and have been fortunate that the basketball people have brought in talent that has enabled them to keep their payroll low when those players were on rookie deals, something that has enabled them to enjoy hefty lux tax distributions. They also were fortunate that Tim Duncan is about something more than selling Nikes. Ownership has succeeded when it has let the basketball people do their work. This newfound restriction they are placing on the management is all about the ing lux tax and nothing else. I highly doubt that whether or not the Spurs hit below that magic threshold means much to their operating performance.

    If you want to continue to be a gullible mofo, feel free.

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    Ah, if you get rid of Rasho just activate Marks or dust off Massenburg. Why are you all so worried about such an obviously worthless player?

    It's not the player it's the principle. When does it end? They are losing talent and giving up opportunities to develop talent. That's not a good sign.

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    It's not the player it's the principle. When does it end? They are losing talent and giving up opportunities to develop talent. That's not a good sign.

    They should sign every available rookie so that nobody else can get them.

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    It's not the player it's the principle.
    Players get cut every year. All I can see is whining because we are currently only carrying 13 players. I simply don't think we're done and your panic over cutting three borderline NBA players is premature.

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    The Spurs are usually done adding players by the start of the season. The only time that hasn't held is when something happened, like an injury.

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    The Spurs are usually done adding players by the start of the season. The only time that hasn't held is when something happened, like an injury.
    As they were showing interest in Dupree, I disagree. There is a need on this team that none of the cut players met, plain and simple.

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    Maybe that interest in Dupree was predicated on another move...

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    It's not the player it's the principle. When does it end? They are losing talent and giving up opportunities to develop talent. That's not a good sign.
    Freaking stupid! You know for sure that these guys are going to be solid players one day? Why throw money at them if you aren't sure and pay a tax?

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    Freaking stupid! You know for sure that these guys are going to be solid players one day? Why throw money at them if you aren't sure and pay a tax?

    It makes perfect sense really, spend all of your money into unproven young players so that no other team will get the opportunity to possibly develop them into mediocre older players.

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    Freaking stupid! You know for sure that these guys are going to be solid players one day? Why throw money at them if you aren't sure and pay a tax?

    One thing's for certain, you're going to let someone else find out if they are.

    You do realize that the Spurs are going to get back roughly 5 to 7 times as much tax as they "pay", no?

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    It makes perfect sense really, spend all of your money into unproven young players so that no other team will get the opportunity to possibly develop them into mediocre older players.
    "all of your money"? $300K is nothing in NBA terms.

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    Apparently some Spurs fans need to get up to speed with the subject at hand. The Spurs are going to get back like $10 mil under the lux tax program, if not more. If they spend an extra $300K on payroll that is not going to hurt their operating performance nor turn their roster into a bunch of mediocre players.

    I guess I need to check the sign-in sheet on the bandwagon to see who's new here.

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    $300K is nothing in NBA terms.
    Oh, and which NBA team do you own?

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