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But a team isn't going to throw Dampier money at Nazr if Nazr just performs well in March, April and the playoffs. But if Nazr averages 10, 10 and 2 this season, he's a very rich ex-Spur at the end of the season.
Why would the Spurs trade Nazr? In the playoffs, it'd be really risky going to war with Rasho and Oberto.
Plus, I don't think Nazr's trade value is too high. Even if the Spurs could get a Shane Battier for him, that is even more long-term money on the books.
No.
But a team isn't going to throw Dampier money at Nazr if Nazr just performs well in March, April and the playoffs. But if Nazr averages 10, 10 and 2 this season, he's a very rich ex-Spur at the end of the season.
That's what this is all about. The Spurs moved Rose because his contract did not fit into their long term budget. Have things really changed because it's now Mohammed?
Besides, the Spurs now have Oberto to be their starting center for 3 seasons at $2.5 mil per. That's hard to beat in the NBA for an experienced player who wasn't drafted.
Fair enough. As long as you are saying that Pop wouldn't jeopardize another le run to lower Nazr value then I wouldn't have a problem with your position. I still think that other GM's can see through that, however.
Mainly because they can't trade Rasho for expiring and they want to go under the Tax.
Not signing a 14th because of Lux tax make sense only if Spurs planed to do a trade before the deadline.
They can trade him for a first and a bad player with an expiring contract.
Please tell me you're joking. Indiana threw money at Croshere for one good play-off series.
Utah payed insane money to Ostertag for blocking Hakeem twice in one play-off game.
New York threw crazy money at Jerome James this year for 1 good game against the Spurs.
If Nazr performs well the past 2 months of the season and then continues to perform in the play-offs, his stock will be crazy high.
coopdogg3
Nazr's value lies in the fact that he himself has an expiring contract. Any potential suitor will want the Spurs to take on a contract that is not expiring.
The Spurs are trying to prevent this or this from happening to them.
Nazr will be in town either at the end of the season or if someone is looking for expiring contracts and has a cheaper alternative. I don't see any way he'll resign with the Spurs when somebody out there is going to offer him some ridiculous Adonal Foyle kind of money.
Especially if he's only 27-28 and has two rings.
That's why I don't see the Spurs trading Nazr this season. No one is going to give up anything for just a half-season of Nazr. And Spurs aren't gonna want a bad contract from some team that finds Nazr's expiring contract attractive. The best hope I see for trading Nazr is a S & T in the summer.
coopdogg3
Nah, Spurs are gonna let Nazr walk next summer. His value to the Spurs was first and foremost getting rid of the long term liability that was Rose's contract. If they can find a taker for Radoslav he will be gone as well. The Spurs have Oberto to start and his price is dirt cheap. They have Horry to be their primary reserve big for this season and the next. Then next summer or the summer thereafter they can bring in Scola at a cheap price as well (or Javtokas, for that matter) to be the 4th big.
No. See the Payton/Walker deal between Celtics and Atlanta.
A team over the cap, will give expiring and picks/prospects to have Nazr Bird Rights. (Nazr is worth more than the MLE)
We hope. I'll believe it when I see it.
He's probably going to be an ex-Spur if he puts up those kinds of numbers. Likewise, he's going to be an ex-Spur if he gets ed around this season. There is no way he's going to come back to San Antonio if he's not going to get minutes and a decent paycheck, because someone will give him those things. Serviceable NBA centers make money and play lots of minutes. He's not going to stay in San Antonio if he isn't going to get that and if Pop s him around.
L.J. has gone Flash Gordon on us with this one. This is every bit as silly as Flash Gordon's referee conspiracies.
If the Spurs are really interested in getting some young, cheap, valuable players for Nazr, they'll give him some minutes. If they're serious about re-signing him at the end of the year, they'll find a way to move Rasho as soon as possible. That's not easy to do, but it would be a whole lot more effective than intentionally ing Nazr around.
It just doesn't make sense. If they want to keep him, pissing him off isn't going to help matters. If they want to trade him, lowering his value isn't going to help matters. And if they want to let him walk, it doesn't really matter what his value is. If they really do plan to let him walk, they are going to get everything they can out of him while he's in San Antonio.
I'm sorry, Flash L.J., but you're pulling this one out of your ass. There is not a single long or short-term advantage to lowering Nazr's value at this time.
The Spurs have to set the table for when Oberto is made the starter and for why Mohammed walks.
So I guess Pop must be anti-Arabic, since Malik is an Arabic name for King and Nazr is Arabic for vow or pledge. It's all becoming clearer now.....
That anti semite.
FIRE POP NOW!!!!
um, er...
makes as much sense as the drivel youve been posting.
I mean , why should we root for such a horrible disgusting team?
At least Pop isn't an anti-den e (Seinfeld reference).
coopdogg3
Why start pinching pennies? Why stop trying to find talent when you have a swingman rotation that is old?
That's silly. I'm not at all convinced that they would intentionally decrease the team's chances of winning and risk pissing off a player (and potentially the other players) because there is a possibility that they might have to justify Oberto starting to the fans almost a year from now.
There are bigger things to worry about, Flash. If Nazr walks, they can certainly cover it then.
They've done it before. Oberto isn't going to move to the starting spot next season. More like next month.
I've been called worse. Check out the Ron Mercer thread where I said the Spurs would waive him. I think I was called a child molestor in that one.
But anyways, who said the Spurs would piss off Nazr? Not starting him isn't going to piss him off. He's a good team player, he'll do whatever Pop tells him he needs to do to win. What limiting his statistics does is it clouds his value.
Don't sell Nazr short.
Isiah Thomas has figured it out, and apparently EVERY team is doing it. Look at the high potential players he has signed after their previous teams tried to lower their value by playing them less minutes.
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