Reply With QuoteSo now Ghost thinks the Spurs "lost"? Well if not for that championship last month he might actually be right.
Get a clue, chump.
Scott, to me this a redundant statement that ignores the reality of the situation. I understand what you're saying about expectations and I agree with you. It's not easy prying franchise players off their current squads. However, other teams with cap flexibility seem to have had better luck than San Antonio. If you look at Denver- they will land Andre Miller. Utah looks like they're zeroing in on Brad Miller and the Clippers have yet to match their offer to Maggette. Granted these are not the biggest fish in the pond, but make nicer meals than Rasho and Horry:winkIf we didn't go into the summer with the bundle of cap room and the opportunity to get a max-FA, I think we'd be okay with adding Rasho to replace Dave and Horry to replace Ferry while maintaining all of our core players (less Claxton).
As I said, to blame our front office is childish- they did their damnest to get these guys, but in the end- it didn't work out. But please don't dismiss reality by making hypothetical statements. The reality is we had the money- and for the most part the attractive players- safe Odom- are accounted for. Even Orlando in the summer of 2000 failed on Duncan, but still managed to land Grant Hill (no comment) and a guy by the name of Tracy McGrady.
So now Ghost thinks the Spurs "lost"? Well if not for that championship last month he might actually be right.
Get a clue, chump.
I think anyone complaining about Horry's paycheck shoudl realize its moot because the money doesn't have a diret effect on anything else.
He's overpayed, at the expense of it being a one year deal, and we have more money that we're going to be able to spend anyhow, so it really doesn't hurt us if we overpay him.
Yes, its a bad value type deal, but it doesn't hurt the team and its not your money, so why do you guys care so much?
The only thing it prevents is that spreewell deal, which sucks either way
Would it be preferable for the Spurs to give him a 2 year deal starting at $3 mil knowing that the Spurs could use that $3 mil next summer towards signing Ginobili to something other than a contract starting at the MLE?
But no, that would actually make sense. Let's like Ghost does all ing morning without understanding why the Spurs made that offer to Horry. F'in A.
Like you said, Walton, the reality is we did our best. So what is there really to be disappointed about?
We aren't worse than we were last year, and you could argue that we will be better with a center who can score a little more and a year of experience for our young core. It is frightening that the Lakers and Wolves are getting better- but there is nothing we can do about that. That is reality. We can sit around and be disappointed at what could have been (which is NOT reality)- or we can continue to try to improve our team.
And IMO, Spreewell for Malik Rose and either Jackson or Bowen while giving up $7 mil in capspace does not make us better.
Try reading in context, Cassius.
The front office purposely cleared cap space, passing on trades and refusing to sign any stars beyond 2003 for the exprees intent on bringing in a star this summer.
That plan failed.
And also we could have played it your way and traded, etc. in the last two - three years and never entered the Holting Pattern. We could have (or not) won a championship and we could have no cap room right now.We gambled.
And lost.
Who knows what could have happened.
But I know one thing, if we never entered the Holting Pattern and had no cap room right now, some peeps would be ing in that cir stance too.
The lesson being, this is life. You make choices and make decisions what path to follow. You can't please everyone and things don't always play out to the best case scenario. And they don't always play out to the worst case scenario. Most of the time they land somewhere in between.
Which, in my opinion, is where the Spurs are right now -- in between.
yeah a ring failed
Here's the ing context: DRob retired. The Spurs decided to set themselves up for cap flexibility in the summer he retired. They did this to certainly make a run at a star and/or find a replacement. This is really not that hard to understand. They took a shot at a couple of franchise free agents. At least they had that damn chance. You've clamored forever that the Spurs played it too safe, were too "scared" and now you because they "gambled." Give it up already.
What exactly did they "lose"? They won a damn championship with primarily a young core and most of that will be returning next season. Yet you . You blame the Spurs for not gambling and then you blame them for gambling. You blame them for not pursuing max free agents and then you blame them for pursuing max free agents. Again and again and again it's always the same for you. You have to make everyone else miserable with your complaints about nothing. Give it a damn rest. Here the Spurs are coming off their second championship and sure as **** you are ing about something.
1. Ghost WriterBut I know one thing, if we never entered the Holting Pattern and had no cap room right now, some peeps would be ing in that cir stance too.
2. Admiral
Without a doubt. The 20/20 Hindsight Crew in effect.
It's not hindsight if you've been warning against something all along, Cassius.
Funny how you cahnged the Spurs' priorities to finding a Robinson replacement first and then a second star after the fact we failed at finding a second star.
P.S.
Kori, we could've won two les or none, We could still have a star under contract and no cap space or just Duncan and a bunch of cap space just like now. We'll never know for sure.
Hopefully, the front office learned their lesson — clearing cap space for a superstar is a crap shoot that rarely pans out.
If they could've gotten a star they would've. They never expected to, that's something you've made up. Certainly they wanted to be sure they could find a starting big once DRob retired. That's been stated by RC before.
Of course under your Blow It All Now strategy the Spurs would not have had any youth and would have been capped out in the summer in which they had to find a replacement for DRob.
No thanks.
Now you're just making stuff up.
You were the biggest proponent of "Bring ina Star in the Summer of 2003" to the point where I argued that the priority was to replace Robinson and you insisted it was to get a star at all costs.
Sell 'crazy' somewhere else. I ain't buyin'.
Sure I would have liked for them to lure a second franchise player to SA. BFD.
So you're cool that we didn't?
Perhaps you get over things a lot quicker than I do.
No.
I understood the severity of the gamble.
I just would've gambled differently a trade or a free agent signing instead of this all or nothing deal.
You're right, though.
No use crying over spilled Malik.
Ha. You once wanted them to run off DRob without any guarantee that Webber would sign. Don't talk to me about "gambles" son.
As did you, partna.
Not without a commitment from Webber.
Popovich was willing to let Robinson walk if it meant hanging on the line for Robinson. So was I.
If Webber was a Spur, perhaps he never suffers his injury last year.
I could live with Duncan and Webber.
Here we go again....
Pop was willing to replace DRob with Webber but not to see DRob walk without Webber on board. In any event would it have been wise to do as you wanted? Probably not, especially with Webber opting to never visit nor return Pop's calls.
awwww...*sigh*
a trip down memory lane...
revisiting the mythical Webber for DRob trade....
Webber talked to popovich several times. Don't you remember the SportsIllustrated article I posted a bunch of times.
Popovich was quoted as pleading to Webber on the phone, "Just tell me you'll say 'Yes'."
Popovich told Robinson he was done.
Peter Holt panicked at fan unrest as Robinson was perceived to be left high and dry by Popovich.
Holt needed @sses in the SBC Center. He demanded popovich re-sign Robinson. The day we screwed the pooch and re-sign Robinson for $10.5 million over two season, the goofs from Webber's camp wanted to talk contract specifics.
Too late.
That's what really happened.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions