Pop on Lonnie Walker IV after starting him against the Bucks: "I thought he was wonderful. He looked calm and played solid basketball. I liked it."

[JeffDuncan]

Yeah, sure mate...

Yeah, sure, yourself, little sweetie.

Kawhi Leonard wasn't drafted by the Spurs, btw. The Spurs traded for him. That properly belongs under trading ability, not drafting ability. It was a great trade, obviously.

Let's start at 2011 ...

Ok, sweetie, when do you want to start? Pick a year.

You've missed the subject. It's about the Spurs drafting and developing players.

Again, it's about whether the Spurs are especially good at drafting and developing players. That's the issue.

Look at what Raybies wrote, that I replied to, with that list.

Manu counts for drafting, in a big way, but not development. He was already a Euroleague MVP.

Timmy was a gimme. Draft him #1, and put him on the court. Nothing special about the Spurs d&d there, any team would have done the same.

Parker is more arguable for d&d, although he was already a professional player in Europe.

And let's add the second rounders, 90% of whom don't make it or stay in the NBA...

So your position is that 2nd rounders should not be considered because you take it that the Spurs d&d will always fail with them. You've got a worse view of Spurs d&d than I have.

Then let's occult the fact Spurs did all that with mostly 25-30 picks ...

Yeah, I hid that by including those picks.

You're the one who wants to hide all the 2nd rounders. Why? You scared to look at them? Afraid something there might not be good for your agenda?

... and let's not compare this with others teams with similar picks to see if they did better...

Go right ahead and compare with other teams. Nothing is stopping you, except perhaps your own ignorance and laziness.

Not to mention what's important isn't as much picking than developing players.

You finally caught on to that. You're cute, but not very swift, sweetie.

Some of you and your agenda are really funny...

Yes, you do have an agenda, obviously, and you are funny.

Guys calling people trusting or at least people giving the benefit of the doubt to a coach of Pop's experience "sniffers", before licking a kid's ass with a dozen real NBA games underhis belt and who has shown a few promising things, then stating spurs are "litterally" losing because he was playing like he was Lebron or something...

What in the world are you babbling about sweetie? You lost your mind?

The issue is whether the Spurs' reputation for drafting and developing players is exaggerated.
I posted the list, post-Kawhi, for people to look at, and draw their own conclusions. Do you see something special there, compared to other teams?

[Sugus]

Because he sucked then and he sucks tonight.

I disagree tbh, he certainly didn't play up to his scoring standard but it's a really small sample size and, for a young player looking for minutes, should not be having a lasting effect in his rotation minutes/place. In the two games that he started, I thought he was solid defensively and managed to stay within his assignments most times, whilst being aggressive on penetration and snatching rebounds. More than anything he wasn't a ballhog and, while lost at times on offensive/defensive sets, looked like a solid player learning the ropes. He has a lot of deficiencies that need ironing out, but that's what you work on in the court - I don't expect him to be putting up 28 points in the regular or any such production.

Against the leagues leading team at their home court non the less.

Pop has a history of trying new things when he faces a sure loss against the best team in the league and this time it was trying Lonnie in the starting role. I didn't expect it to last...

Yeah, Pop's coaching has been lacking in many aspects. His gameplan against the Bucks was solid though (and it'll be Milwaukee's downfall eventually); he just can't seem to let go of Forbes and giving him extended minutes. At this point I think Pop is just a believer that Forbes has that "extra gear" that certain players develop as far as scoring/ability, and is playing him in the hope that it manifets and he makes the "Curry jump". It doesn't make a lot of ing sense, but it's the closest I've come to a reason that doesn't disrespect his mental wellbeing (though those cross the mind at times, too...).

[XDT76]

At this moment of time, I think starting Forbes with Lonnie coming in as the 2nd team is the best for the team. There are too many players that require the ball to be effective and adding Lonnie to the SL will not be doing him service. It will make the SL having 4 players who needs to have the ball, it was similarly where Manu was moved to the 2nd team. On the 2nd team, Lonnie can have the ball in his hand more and will do his offensive development more good than bad. He can move into the SL when DDR moves next season. We had seen how bad when 2 of Fobes/Mills/Beli are when they are on court together and this cannot be avoided if Lonnie or White starts. Unless Carroll can break rotation, the current line-up seems to be the most effective. Having said that PATFO cannot be adsorbed of all responsibility as they construct a poor roster for this season.

[ChumpDumper]

The all caps double spacing is pretty edgy tbh.

[ZeusWillJudge]

The all caps double spacing is pretty edgy tbh.

I didn't count the syllables, since it clearly wasn't originally written in English, but I think it's a series of haiku.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I hope he's now a regular part of the rotation. He had the best +/- vs. the Bucks the other night. Seems to be the spark whether he's coming off the bench or starting. He just needs reps and minutes.

[Sugus]

I wonder what play or action by Marco caused Pop to say "enough" and seemingly promote Lonnie ahead of him on the rotation. It'd be good to know so we can cheer for Forbes to do the same