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Nothing spectacular. Lake Travis and Aquarina Springs, that's about it. Work's been too busy.
Saving up for a housing and video camera, gotta have some new toys to take to Belize next May
BTW you done any diving this year AHF?
Nothing spectacular. Lake Travis and Aquarina Springs, that's about it. Work's been too busy.
Saving up for a housing and video camera, gotta have some new toys to take to Belize next May
Lucky basgotta have some new toys to take to Belize next May
What make are you looking at?Saving up for a housing and video camera
I sure hope that was not meant to be taken seriously.
This is something that I take very seriously. I can see light and humor in things, but I think we are better than the people we are fighting and should act that way.
^^^Its not about sitting on a high horse and saying we're above effective methods of extraction. We should outweigh the pros with the cons. Most of these prisoners are terrorist. They have no Geneva convention protection since they do not fight by those rules. IF you have a whole army playing by a high standard and another from a low, you get an unfair advantage. Not only that, but your concern should be the innocent and not the guilty.
They are criminals basically. Give them trials and sentences and that is that.
The longer we don't give them trials the more we lose the "war" on terror.
By the way, when a country is a signatory of the Geneva convention they are obliged to uphold those standards even when fighting those countries who aren't part of the treaty.
Your seriously joking. When we win the war on terror, it wont be because we are sending terrorist to US courts. Only the liberal puss's care about the legal issues. The muslim world only cares if the troops are humiliating the terrorist sexually or forcing blasphemy on them.
Does it say that in the treaty.. Or does it say that in the LE mOnde.
I would expect our Country to adhere to the Rules of the GC only to the extent that the opposition does. Following guidelines when others don't gives them an unfair advantage and cost US soldiers lives, I prefer lives saved over strictly following GC protocol
and if we could save a soldier's life by shooting children, then that is ok too?
Moral expediency here is losing us the war on terror. When nations are falling over themselves to be more anti-american than each other, that becomes a problem.
^^That's assinine. Equating a child with a terrorist? GEt off your high horse.
Right now I'm looking at one of the 3 CCD Panasonic digitals.
Heh, when our son was born we went through a roll of film per month, then broke down and got a digital camera. Best $300 bucks we ever spent.Right now I'm looking at one of the 3 CCD Panasonic digitals.
Heh, without it instant pic like this of our son goofing around wouldn't be possible:
Can you cite or have you heard of any instances where a child is in direct violation of the GC and poses a direct or imminent threat to our soldiers lives?
Actually no small number of gunmen in Somalia were under 14. But that isn't really what I was getting at.
Commiting morally reprehensible acts is simply not justified in my opinion, even were it to save our soldiers lives, or my life for that matter.
Further, the damage it does to our image in the muslim world and beyond causes them to cooperate with us less and less as time goes on. THIS is the real effect of such things.
These effects may not be immediate or measuable but over time, I firmly believe that they directly increase the number and severity of future terrorist attacks.
[QUOTE]I'm sure you know the answer to how those "young gunslingers" should be handled. Or would you suggest our troops lay down their arms and be shot?
Or a member of your family's life?Commiting morally reprehensible acts is simply not justified in my opinion, even were it to save our soldiers lives, or my life for that matter.
Again, can you cite or do you know of any examples where this took place?
I think some people here are actually enjoying the chaos in France. May I ask you why? Because France didn't support the Iraq invasion? So because of that they deserve riots, or even worse, an Intifada? If it makes you happy that civilians die in your "rival" country, then you are no better than a terrorist.
Oh, and I've read that someone called France a "socialist" nation. Yep, right.
Michelin
Elf
Peugeot
Renault
Citroen
Danone
Dassault
Lancome
Telecom
L'Oreal
Christian Dior
Air France
Alcatel
BNP Paribas
Canal +
Carrefour
Societe Generale
Moet et Chandon
[QUOTE]If you pick up a rifle and shoot it at ME, I don't care how old you are, I will shoot back, and the same should be said for our troops. I was referring more to cold-blooded murder than self-defense. BUT this hairsplitting is beside the point.
I would feel the same if it were a my entire family. That is the regard with which I hold the ideals. It is hard to say, but again, somethings are bigger than ourselves.Or a member of your family's life?
Again, can you cite or do you know of any examples where this took place?
Please tell me why I should cite examples.
[QUOTE=RandomGuy]Actual and factual examples carry far more weight than hypothetical ones.Please tell me why I should cite examples.
(took the day off to get some car work done, I knew I'd spend too much time in the Forum).
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