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    you gotta lend some credence to what sickdsm is saying. he spent years watching flip coach. i think it was a fair warning from him, not a slight against your team. flip's deficiencies as a coach didn't stop him from being a t-wolves fan.
    You also have to lend some credence to the fact that McHale and KG actually both asked Flip to come back in the offseason. KG was opposed to him being fired to begin with.
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    Detroit hasn't played anyone good yet....
    It's true. Thing is, between injuries and chemistry problems and stuff, there just plain isn't anybody good for them to play. The whole league sucks at the moment, but the Pistons suck the least.

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    Did this thread get totally hijacked or did just about everyone miss SB's joke? Or was he joking? I know he lives in the DC area but damn...
    Had to go back to SB's original post to see what you were talking about, yep, it's been effectively hijacked.

    Only 4 of the threads addressed his original question and that ended back in post #20 something.

    Now where were we? Oh yeah, Pistons are the best so far.

    And for those that insist that they haven't played anyone so far be reminded that 3 of the teams we beat were on the road and 4 of them were in the playoffs last year. Sacramento, Phoenix, Boston and Philadelphia.

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    seems Pop's masterplan to turn the media's hype away from the Spurs is working! and the Pistons are in unfamiliar territory. this plan is working out perfectly.

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    To answer the original question....Pistons. Still un-defeated. And I don't care who you say they played...easy teams, etc. Bottom line, even the best teams lose to crappy teams once in a while. Pistons offense is simply looking awesome out there between Rip and Billups. Moreover, their defense is still there.

    Pistons.

    Of course Spurs are a close second

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    Having centers who can't rebound or do might've hurt Minnesota.
    sheeeit the t-wolves had a future ring wearer in rasho!

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    Having centers who can't rebound or do might've hurt Minnesota.

    S.A. was .08 from going threepeat with MN's center starting.

    Blame Mac all you want but Flip had player control. Flip said what guys he wanted. I know that that team overachieved in the regular season and always had an uphill battle. But the reason why we say they overachieved is the fact remains that Flip covets the wrong type of players. Granted, he doesn't have a say yet in Detroit but if he can't get the speedy shooting PG that he wants for example, he'll give more minutes to the closest thing IMO.

    I don't care what anyone says about LB not being the one calling the shots on Rasheed Wallace deal. Looks eerily familiar when he was looking ahead to Shaq in the Finals with the sixers and they dealt Ratliff for Motumbo bc he was a better one on one post defender.

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    If Flip had so much player control, why wasn't he GM too? Why even have McHale as president? Well ... because McHale had final say-so. It's the same reason McHale had the "authority" to FIRE Flip. You arguments are wearing thin.

    And, I didn't say Larry Brown DID NOT influence the acquisition of Rasheed Wallace. Of course Larry Brown wanted Rasheed. Of course Larry pushed Joe Dumars to make the trade. My point earlier is that any SANE AND COMPETENT NBA GM would have done the trade for the pieces they gave up: Chucky Atkins, Bobby Sura, Zeljko Rebraca, and a first round draft pick. The Pistons gave up no starters. And, Rasheed was on the last year of his contract, so if he turned out as a bad trade, Dumars would not have had to re-sign him, and they could have re-signed Mehmet Okur. It was a no-lose situation. Larry Brown hardly had to twist Dumars' arm to make that trade. Understand that concept?

    Flip will definitely have a say in personnel in Detroit, being he is the head coach. But, Joe Dumars will have final decision. And, it will remain that way. Bill Davidson loves Joe Dumars and trusts his opinion. Flip will not be able to manipulate Joe Dumars the way you are making it sound like he manipulated Kevin McHale. Joe Dumars has a track record (albeit a short one) of not being influenced by his coaches and not being afraid to make the bold move, even against conventional wisdom or against the desires of the coaching staff.

    If Flip tries to take control of player personnel, he won't stay long in Detroit. If he causes problems like the ones you cite in Minnesota, he won't last 9 or 10 years here. Dumars cuts his losses quickly. Dumars is not the puppet McHale seemingly is.

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    In reply to the original topic question, I think Detroit is playing extremely well. But I never doubted they were this good - but the real thing will be if they can still play the dominant inside defense theyre known for and still run the offense like they have been without their bodies breaking down.

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    Who was the best team in the league this time last year and the year before and the...

    I don't remember either.

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    Of course Spurs are a close second
    I say the Spurs are ahead, by the rings on their fingers.

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    Pistons.

    I would have to pick the Pistons as significant favorites to win the East.
    They have played better than the Spurs so far.

    I now expect a Spurs-Pisons final (barring injuries).

    If Spurs win tonight, I move them up to an obvious second.

    By the time the playoffs start, Spurs should be at least even with the Pistons.


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