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  1. #76
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    Good point Ghost.

    I'm sure Falk was working with RC to come up with a deal like that with all those clauses just for s and giggles.



    AHF

  2. #77
    Nikos
    Guest
    I am a little skeptical as well that Sterling won't match the offer.

    That would likely leave the Clippers with a

    Jaric Q Odom Wilcox Kaman SL next season?

    Can you really see the Clipps letting 4 quality young players go just like that?

    Brand and Odom could be their NEW CORE -- without Brand Clippers are one of the worse teams -- with him/Odom they have a shot at fighting for the 8th seed.

  3. #78
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    Maybe CC. But when has Sterling ever committed $80 million to one player? Sterling is notorious for keeping his operating costs low. Suddenly he changes that philosophy? He's losing Miller and if the reports of Utah's offer to Maggette are correct he will lose him too. Odom seems destined to leave at the latest by next summer. What's the point in retaining Brand? How much better is that Clipper team really going to be? Why not commit to small rookie deals and keep more of those lottery picks rolling in?

  4. #79
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    Har-de-har-har.

    If you guys think it's going to be a cinch to offer a contract, get Brand to accept and Sterling not to match, you're a lot more confident than I am.

    I hope it all comes together that easily.

    Nesterovic and Brand would be more than I could've ever imagined for this summer and would certainly make the Holt-ing Pattern a success.

    All respect due.



  5. #80
    CosmicCowboyXXX
    Guest
    someone is gonna have to get paid for Sterling to get to the league minimum payroll. He would be nuts to let Brand walk this year. Brand has always been a professional...there is no reason to expect his performance to suffer because he is "unhappy"...

  6. #81
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    CC, does Sterling take on a $80 million commitment and $30 mil this year just to "make payroll"? I don't see that.

  7. #82
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    Yeah, he can always let Brand walk and sign Arenas or something, can't he? There are other ways for Sterling to fill his roster, and if Brand is an unattractive option from a business standpoint Sterling will let him walk.

  8. #83
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    Sterling needs to make payroll, but taking on that deal for Brand meets it and goes over it by about 20 million.

    Sounds kinda steep for Sterling. Look folks, it's not like there's not guys like Piatkowski out there looking for money.

    He can easily reach his 30 million payroll without mortgaging 80 million for Elton.

    AHF

  9. #84
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    See, the difference is, the Clippers are a business. The Spurs are a basketball team. We will lose some money if necessary to get the team we want. DS will not.

  10. #85
    Man in Black1
    Guest
    :brotha
    Can you really see the Clipps letting 4 quality young players go just like that?
    Back in 1992, the Donald had Larry Brown as Coach, the Clippers were actually beating the Lakers and making the playoffs. They had a core of Danny Manning, Charles Smith(Yes that Charles Smith-Before Bad Knees), Ken Norman, & Ron Harper. Sterling broke that core up because he didn't feel like paying them more EVEN THOUGH he had all of the above. His cheapness made him lose all that he had except for the Clippers. He is after all, the Donald.


  11. #86
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    Someone please explain to me why Donald Sterling would commit to paying US$50 million in cold hard cash salaries next year just so that he can "make the minimum payroll."

    Also, explain to me why he would agree to a $80 mil+ commitment to do that.

    Come on let's put our thinking caps on.

  12. #87
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    Based on past history, you have little reason to believe he would, Mark.

    But now he has a player worth maxing and building around.

    And he insists he will match anything and everything for Brand.

    I think the Spurs startegy should be to offer Brand a huge deal and if Sterling matches it, make it so financially restricting that he can't help but to let Odom come to us.

    Turn the tables, so to speak.



  13. #88
    T Park Num 9
    Guest
    Sounds good to me Ghost...

    Hopefully we get either one.

  14. #89
    Ed Helicopter Jones
    Guest
    I like the idea of putting big offers on the table for two of Sterling's boys, forcing him to let Odom or Brand walk.

    But. . .what if Sterling said "screw 'em both" and let them both go? Are the Spurs then committed to sign both of them?

  15. #90
    Admiral
    Guest
    Good point, Chopper.

    Hopefully, we can just offer Brand a max deal with a lot of front-loading and incentives. If Sterling matches that (and I don't think he will), he would have no choice but to let Odom walk. Correct?

    This is assuming that no other teams offer Odom a big contract during that time, and I have no idea how realistic that is. In other words, we work on Brand, and if that falls through, we work on Odom.

  16. #91
    Ed Helicopter Jones
    Guest
    Hey Admiral!

    Yeah, I'm assuming the plan of action you've suggested is what Ghost is referring to, I'm just not sure about the timing of it all.

    Is there enough time to wait to see if Sterling will match on Brand before moving on Odom? Or do the Spurs need to simultaneously put offers on both players?

    Free agency is a b!tch.

  17. #92
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    You can only make offer sheets when you have the cap room so you can't make offers to both at the same time.

  18. #93
    Ed Helicopter Jones
    Guest
    Thanks MB. 2

  19. #94
    ChumpDumper
    Guest
    However, in a break with their tradition, they're now out-bidding the field for Brand. Clipper vice president Andy Roeser confirmed Monday they raised their offer to Brand over the weekend from $65 million over five seasons to $78 million over six, moving beyond the $74 million other teams have as their limit.
    Ok, with the new cap number this has changed.

    The Spurs can offer as much as $81.125 million over 6 years.

    The Clips can offer $86.23125 million over 6 years.

    Anyone feel free to correct me.

    This is getting good.

  20. #95
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    I think the reporter missed a few things...

  21. #96
    ChumpDumper
    Guest
    Well no one knew the actual cap number then.

  22. #97
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    I think the #s are screwed up that were reported on the radio program.

  23. #98
    ChumpDumper
    Guest
    I'm gonna go by my numbers and assume the stakes are being raised significantly--at least until baseline or genghis puts me in my place again.

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