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NVE played against Harris when he took fire.
harris scored only 6 again parker.
Try again.
To me, in the regular season they are pretty much even.
The reason many consider Billups better is because of his playoff success -- his ability to raise his game and stats in the playoffs. Parker hasn't really done that, with the exception of the 2004 playoffs (pre-Game 3 vs LA). Before Game 3 in LA Parker was on his way towards supers om at his position, but he came back down to earth by the series end.
Parker has always shown flashes of greatness; where he breaks down defenses, scores and sets up teamattes to near perfection when he is at his best. In last years playoffs he had a handful of excellent games and the rest he was pretty much underacheiving or playing poorly on the offensive end. He was a lot like that in the 2003 playoffs as well. Either Parker has a spectacular game or a "non-factor type of game" -- or at least that is the way it seems. The stats and box scores pretty much support this.
Parker has the opportunity this season to gain some seperation on most of the PG's who are considered at his level. If he can increase his offensive efficiency, namely in the playoffs, he will get the respect he deserves.
Last edited by Nikos; 11-10-2005 at 04:19 PM.
NVE played against Harris when he took fire.
harris scored only 6 again parker.
Try again.
It was Bowen that shut down Billups in game 7 not Parker. Try again
Who said you couldn't? 5 games isn't much but its a better barometer than just one.so cant i say devin harris is playing like a top 5 pg - hopefully he can keep this up all season ?
I never say Parker shut down Billups in game 7.It was Bowen that shut down Billups in game 7 not Parker. Try again
Than you proved my point. Just look at Nash's and Billups stats in the playoffs last year to show that Parker isn't as good of a defender as Billups.
I never say Parker is a better defender than Billups.
Billups is the better defender.
But when you speak of Harris, it's BS.
Yeah Van Exel is really slow now. Parker didn't change much though when he came in the game late.
he came in the game way too late. if nothing else his speed would have helped work harris a bit more on the defensive end, but that game is long over with... =/
Chauncey this year:
16.4 pts 9.2 assists 1.6 to's 2.8 rbs
89%ft 42%fg
TP this year:
22.6 pts 5.8assists 3.4to's 3.2rbs
72.2%ft 58.1%fg
They're both playing great this year. Hopefully they both keep it up.
But give me Billups any day of the week over TP.
Pistons get open looks by running off screens, Rip, Tayshun to an extent and someone, often Billups, delivering the ball. Guys running the screens do 90% of the work.
More and more the Spurs get open looks by Parker breaking down the defense on a drive and kicking to stationary open shooters. Parker does almost all the work setting up the players.
The abilities of Parker as a playmaker are vastly underrated, even by most Spurs fans here. Fact is Parker is a more gifted playmake than Billups or all but a small handful of NBA PGs in his ability to, with a simple pick, get easy, open shots for his teammates. That's what a playmaking PG is supposed to do, however they do it. That's what Parker does.
you have never watched tony play extensively then...tony abosrbs hits just as good as anyone and he does finish around the basket better than A.I. just because he DOES use floaters doesn't mean he doesn't finish any other way. i think its just that AI is the fabled "rim attacker" lil guy, so he gets more credit for finishing around the rim than tony. ESPN or TNT (cant remember) had a stat last year that tony attacked the rim more than any other point guard last year and made most of his attempts at the rim by far...i would think he had to get some sort of contact being down there so much...but thats me
Come on guys...Chauncey is the better player here without a doubt. Chauncey can take over a game at any moment, plus when the game is on the line he is lights out. I dont know how Parker would be without Duncan there to lead him. Chauncey is clearly the leader of the Pistons.
he might be the leader of the pistons, but he isnt better than tony. he has his advantages, but i would rather have tony. bullups has reaches his peak...he wont get any better...tony is much younger and is on the same level as billups (slightly better IMO). tony gets better every year...so its a no brainer to me
a lot of you are right, this is just too hard a comparison to make. apples and oranges and all that. I love parker's game, but never in a thousand years would I want him on the pistons over billups. Chauncey has tailored his game to suit our team, he is really the perfect point for our system. TP is hardly the only one I feel this way about. I think Iverson is amazing, I respect the out of the way he plays. but on the pistons? no, I think i'd pass(an option that rarely occurs to AI).
Chauncey is more of a leader than Parker, but Parker is just as good at playmaking in my opinion. The main thing chauncey has on parker is the three point shot - parker is much better at driving and theyre about the same at dishing. so I think its a tie skill wise but chauncey brings more to the floor.
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