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    The second inquiry is the point at which intermediate scrutiny comes into play and asks what the State's interests are in discriminating based on gender (which is actually how the law discriminates, I think; the law, again, doesn't prohibit sexuals from marrying -- it prohibits men from marrying men and women from marrying women, regardless of their sexual orientation), whether those interests are important to the State, and whether the limitation created by the law is substantially related to limitation on individual rights.
    That's a good analysis, but neither the TXSupCT nor SCOTUS would see it that way. They would reason that no gender discrimination exist because neither sex is able to do what the other is not.

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    They would reason that no gender discrimination exist because neither sex is able to do what the other is not.
    ?? Women can marry men, but under this law, men certainly cannot marry men, and the reverse also hold true. Sorry to drive the proverbial truck through the truck-sized hole in your argument...

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    ?? Women can marry men, but under this law, men certainly cannot marry men, and the reverse also hold true. Sorry to drive the proverbial truck through the truck-sized hole in your argument...
    That would be the argument to use for sure.

    SCOTUS would see things differently, however. Their logic would be that the same-sex ban treats equally men and women. Men cannot marry members of the same sex and woman cannot marry members of the same sex. It's all in the wording you sly dog

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    that's not the province of the legislature you dolt
    Yes it is you re . the supreme court is not the last word in the land. You have a thing called check and balances. GAwd Your a moron!

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    Yes it is you re . the supreme court is not the last word in the land. You have a thing called check and balances. GAwd Your a moron!
    yeah theres something called the cons ution. the last amendment limiting personal freedom was prohibition, that turned out well didn't it?

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    Yes it is you re . the supreme court is not the last word in the land. You have a thing called check and balances. GAwd Your a moron!


    Section. 2.

    Clause 1: The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Cons ution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State; (See Note 10)--between Citizens of different States, --between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

    http://www.house.gov/Cons ution/Cons ution.html

    You might want to read this and try that last bit again...

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    Yes it is you re . the supreme court is not the last word in the land. You have a thing called check and balances. GAwd Your a moron!
    ...and when you call somebody a moron, you might want to make sure that your spelling is correct and that your grammar is correct. When you can't do either, you're a moron.

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    ^I type slow. So when i do finish i don't bother checking spelling or grammar. A moron also just pulls out of thin air like yourself and declares himself intellectually superior.

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    ^I type slow. So when i do finish i don't bother checking spelling or grammar. A moron also just pulls out of thin air like yourself and declares himself intellectually superior.
    Yes it is you re . the supreme court is not the last word in the land. You have a thing called check and balances. GAwd Your a moron!

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    Heh, talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

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    Yes it is you re . the supreme court is not the last word in the land. You have a thing called check and balances. GAwd Your a moron!
    I'm sorry. I meant "checks and balances". Having a typo is one thing. Calling some one a dolt like OH gee! and not knowing yourself what your talking about is another. But ofcourse your to busy being Oh Gee's unpaid legal attorney. Get a life.

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    ^^Go to sleep.

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    That is the most sensible thing you have said all night.

    I have some homework to do in the morning.

    Thanks and I hope the random facts from Random Guy were randomly interesting.

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    Yes it is you re . the supreme court is not the last word in the land. You have a thing called check and balances. GAwd Your a moron!

    read the ing the thread before you start calling people out idiot. I said that classifying the so-called protected or suspect classes for purposes of scrutinizing EPC claims is not within the scope of the legislature. The Supreme Court has its own formula for determining which groups of people qualify for strict (or any other type of) scrutiny.

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    read the ing the thread before you start calling people out idiot. I said that classifying the so-called protected or suspect classes for purposes of scrutinizing EPC claims is not within the scope of the legislature. The Supreme Court has its own formula for determining which groups of people qualify for strict (or any other type of) scrutiny.
    This is why we have to limit judicial activism. It cannot be the sole province of the court to determine who the protected and suspect classes are.

    Before you call out gtown, think about what he said. We do need checks and balances and this judicial activism has to stop.

    gtown, I commend you for your wisdom. You words ring as true right now as they did 5 minutes ago when I first read your post.
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    This is why we have to limit judicial activism. It cannot be the sole province of the court to determine who the protected and suspect classes are.

    Before you call out gtown, think about what he said. We do need checks and balances and this judicial activism has to stop.

    gtown, I commend you for your wisdom. You words ring as true right now as they did 5 minutes ago when I first read your post.

    wouldn't checks and balances mean that the legislature (one co-equal branch) doesn't tell the judiciary (another co-equal branch) how to perform purely judicial tasks, such as interpreting the law and creating tests to scrutinize cons utional claims?

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    wouldn't checks and balances mean that the legislature (one co-equal branch) doesn't tell the judiciary (another co-equal branch) how to perform purely judicial tasks, such as interpreting the law and creating tests to scrutinize cons utional claims?
    Oh, Gee! such an innocent, naive young man.

    What "checks and balances" really means is that the Republican-led Legislative Branch and the Republican-led Administrative Branch should get to control the Judicial Branch, as well, in order to keep their activism in check.
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    Oh, Gee! such an innocent, naive young man.

    What "checks and balances" really means is that the Republican-led Legislative Branch and the Republican-led Administrative Branch should get to control the Judicial Branch, as well, in order to keep their activism in check.

    Damn, Peabody. You just took it to a whole new level. Have you been studying under Gtown?

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    Not even. Equal protection laws do allow equal acces to all citizens. But it's basis is on race and gender and origin. Orientation is a choice and behavior and not benign. Gays do not have a fundamental right in marriage. TO recieve strict scrutiny for gays you must prove that gays have been historically denied that privelege and that they cannot do anything about it to cir vent it. Up till now have they made a ruckus. If marriage by definiton is between man and woman, then then you cannot give that right to sexuals since they dont meet the criteria of man and woman. Marriage is not a tool to marry en y a to en y b. it is strictly between man and woman. Just like the court cannot give equal reproductivce rights to man because it's only the woman that springs the seed.
    You see here dip . I know the formula the supreme court uses to interpret as to wether a group is protected or not. That doesn't prove your point. The legislature can interpret what are protected classes when they draft laws for affirmative action and other civil right matters.

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    You see here dip . I know the formula the supreme court uses to interpret as to wether a group is protected or not. That doesn't prove your point. The legislature can interpret what are protected classes when they draft laws for affirmative action and other civil right matters.
    Evidence of Cons utional scholarship at its finest.

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    ^^really? i'll give you an example. Asian minorities have had a terrible persecutory past. SOmehow the legislature has chosen to remove them from "protected class" status from affirmative action laws for financial aid.

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    ^^really? i'll give you an example. Asian minorities have had a terrible persecutory past. SOmehow the legislature has chosen to remove them from "protected class" status from affirmative action laws for financial aid.
    That's a load of crap. le VII and other anti-discrimination laws (note: statutory enactments and not instances of Cons utional construction) make it illegal to discriminate on the basis of race or ethnicity. Asian minorities are certainly within the protected class who cannot be illegally discriminated against. Try again.

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    ^You obviously have no clue about affirmative action. Affirmative action only helps protected classes. It can discriminate whites and jews from it's priveliges solely because they are a very affluent class. This is what i was talking about when the congressional branch interprets what is a protected class and what is not.


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    @ Gtown trying to argue law with a ing lawyer!!!

    Priceless!!!

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