Reply With Quote
i remember one post from a Mavs fan saying Mavtalk sucks.....
that was last yr...i forgot who it was
i can't say if it wasn't true or not, i never visited the site though.
I would and I did and its fact
either way, keep it up Mouse, I love reading the replies to your posts. they brighten my day
i remember one post from a Mavs fan saying Mavtalk sucks.....
that was last yr...i forgot who it was
i can't say if it wasn't true or not, i never visited the site though.
I think I said that.
i knew it was you, i was just baiting u to admit what u saidI think I said that.
BTW, anybody posted this one here before?
interesting debate, huh?
http://www.nba.com/news/tnt_051104.html
Tempest in a TNT Pot
Nov. 5 -- If you're on this page, you know of the folderol between Dallas Mavericks owner and blogger Mark Cuban and TNT analysts Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley.
What? You're haven't been paying attention? Well, NBA.com has. Allow us to help you catch up. Here's the latest:
CUBAN'S NOT 'MAD'
Posted Saturday, Nov. 5, 2005 at 1 p.m. ET
In a Saturday afternoon entry, Cuban only made a passing reference to Kenny and Charles and their "conversation" about ... wait, where did this all begin again? Oh, yeah, Dallas defending the pick-and-roll:
"Im not mad at the TNT team. I actually really like Kenny and Charles. They are good guys. I just dont like the way they do their jobs. Thats my opinion. Thats what blogs are for. To write about whats on my mind."
Is it over? To be revisited on Thursday? Stay tuned.
Oh, by the way, the Mavs' next TNT game is Dec. 1 vs. San Antonio.
KENNY TAKES OFFENSE
Posted Friday, Nov. 4, 2005 at 7:45 p.m. ET
Smith has responded to Cuban's Friday morning entry. The Jet's not happy, but says his brain (the ultimate WiFi) has plenty of computing power:
E-mail photo | Buy photos
Kenny responds to Cuban.
Andrew Bernstein/NBAE/Getty Images
"First, I love Avery Johnson. I don't like him, I love him and I have the utmost respect for the entire coaching staff. However, it wasn't the coaching staff that called us idiots. It was you Mark, you spoke for yourself.
Second, in terms of basketball, I don't think there's anything that Charles and myself haven't seen or heard or haven't been a part of in an NBA basketball game. There is nothing that's been done in the game of basketball that I can't comment on, but I don't think you can say the same.
To use the term 'idiots' was offensive and I took that personally. I think if you put us in a room and we had to describe the game of basketball people would want to hear what I have to say over what you have to say. If you really understood the game, you would realize that coaches and players have always had different philosophies. That's what makes the game great, that people have different philosophies and some work better than others. It doesn't make the Dallas Mavericks philosophy wrong just because I don't agree with it, and it doesn't make us idiots just because we don't agree with you.
I don't need a stat sheet or the Internet to know how a guy shoots or how he plays the game. My brain and eyes are my computer and I log on everyday. "
Thus sayeth the Jet. We're guessing this isn't the end of this.
CUBAN FIRES OFF A LATE MISSIVE
Well, that didn't take long. Cuban watched and didn't waste time responding to Kenny and Charles' comments from Thursday's Inside. Cuban posted this on www.blogmaverick.com Thursday night.
Did you read the blog at all ? It was nice that TNT left out the reference to us tracking our results on defense and going to and away from what was working or not.
CB, get a 2 way with internet access. There is some good info out there that could make you better at what you do. More importantly, when you say people out there that spend their days on computers have no life.. time to step into 2005. When you said that , TNT and the NBAs audience that advertisers covet the most looked at each other and laughed. THen they IMed or TXT messaged their buddy list and called you out again. Get that 2 way CB. It will make it easier to keep in touch with the family and to do your job. You will love it.
And comparing your basketball IQ to mine isnt quite apples to apples given that Im not the coach. Im willing to compare the basketball knowledge of AJ, Del Harris, Joe Prunty and Larry Riley to the two of you anytime. My guess, you guys are on the short end of the stick.
Mark sees your basketball knowledge and raises you four coaches. Can Kenny and Charles beat that hand?
SIR CHARLES AND THE JET SET A PICK-AND-ROLL ON CUBAN
On Thursday's Inside the NBA, Smith and Barkley had a response to Cuban's Wednesday morning blog entry. Watch the video.
In case you need highlights, here they are:
Barkley: "No, but I know [a blog has] got something to do with the internet. You know, I don't use internet. Anybody who can sit around and thumb a keyboard all day just has no life."
Smith "Why do we have to be idiots?"
Barkley: "Well Phoenix does the same thing. I think that any team that switches every pick and roll, it always creates mismatches and destroys your defense. That means their not a good defensive team. And obviously Dallas and Phoenix aren't good defensive teams. It's not personal. You know, I love Mark, but I don't think he should be taking shots here. First of all, I don't want to be a head coach...
Smith: "No, I don't want to be a head coach, because I wouldn't be sitting here if I wanted to be. The other thing I'm saying is, if you know basketball, you know basketball. If you don't know basketball, you don't, it's obvious. And right now it's obvious that there's really nothing that's gone on in a game that these two guys sitting here haven't been part of. (points to himself and Charles). He's won MVP's, All-Star Events. (Ernie interjects with "Olympic Gold medals, twice) I've been a champion, on championship teams, I've been an All-American in HS and college. There's nothing... We're covering the gamut right here, so if there's some idiot around here, it's not sitting in this studio right here."
Barkley: "Hey first of all, I love Mark Cuban. He ain't never gonna know more about basketball than me. I ain't never gonna have as much money as him, I'll never know more about computers, but he'll live to be 1000, and he'll never know more than us two about basketball. If he knew that, he wouldn't have put that little "soft cake" team together."
Chuck, is there any other kind of cake?
ALL IS RIGHT IN MARK CUBAN'S WORLD, EXCEPT KENNY AND CHARLES
E-mail photo | Buy photos
Mark Cuban can't believe what he's hearing from Kenny and Charles.
Rocky Widner/NBAE/Getty Images
On Tuesday night, after the Mavericks scored an exciting 111-108 double-OT comeback win over the Phoenix Suns on the road, Smith and Barkley said that the Mavericks have trouble defending the pick-and-roll. Those comments seemed to temper Cuban's excitement about the victory.
In his Wednesday entry "I love this game," Cuban, exulting over the win, said there was one bummer about the big night:
Only downer of the night was listening to the idiots on TNT after the game. Its not unusual if we win a TNT game for us to turn it on in the locker room and hear what Charles, Kenny and co have to say. They havent gotten any better.
Let me just say this. There is a reason why Kenny and Charles havent gotten head coaching jobs. THere is more to running a team these days then thinking you know what you are talking about. Kenny, if you want to bust on us for switching on the pick and roll, get some stats to back it up. We track conversion rates on everything we do. High pick and roll, elbow pick and roll, whatever, we track it. If its not working Kenny, we adjust. I know that is probably a new concept to you and Charlie B, but thats the NBA of 2006. With all that money you guys make (hey if you are going to talk salaries, lets see how you like it), go out and hire some kids to track what actually happens in a game rather than having TNT bring in kids to go out and get donuts.
Here is a little test. How many deflections did we have last night versus our season average last year. Do you remember what a deflection is guys ? Its a nice indicator of defensive effort.
And rook..I mean Reggie Miller. Remember this rook. Every year TNT brings in the guy who was good, but retired last year, and puts them in that same seat you were sitting in. You may have noticed that they arent there any more. Do something more than just try to be another guy who tries to fit in and trade nonsensical barbs with the boys. Charles has earned the right to be the comedian who has some insights. Kenny wants to be the coach, but wont do the work, so never will be more than a sidekick. Rook, you need to add some value, or in a few weeks we will see someone else sitting in that seat. Maybe Derrick Coleman can come in and give us a Whoop De Damn Do…
But I digress. After listening to some of the idiocy, we just turned it off.
Ouch!
THE ANALYSIS THAT STARTED IT ALL
Whew! What a barnburner to open Premiere Week. Dallas steals one from Phoenix, 111-108 in double overtime on TNT.
Here's what Kenny and Charles had to say about the Mavericks' defense that made Mark Cuban hot under the collar: Watch the video.
Has Barkley watched any of Dallas games? He makes his decision on one night of a Dallas that went to 2 overtimes. Of course Dallas will give up 108 points in 58 minutes. I don't understand why Barkley likes to attack Dallas more than any team. He is very bias and it pisses me off.
i think so. Did you remember him once saying in the 2003 WC finals "...Dallas is a great team, having a great year, but it's over tonight..."
he was actually hosting the WC game...
i think Barkley likes the Spurs but he bashes Parker too during the 1st rnd, 1st game of the Spurs-Nuggets game in the last playoffs. He even mocked TP for wearing a shirt he didn't like or inapproriate for his standard and for escorting Longoria before the game.
So maybe he says what he thinks is best for the team. It worked for us though. Parker showed up the next game and we had beaten the Nuggets 4 in a row.
Mouse is a "tweener". He is caught between the true love of his life (the Spurs) and the woman he just loves to f%$@ ( the Mavs). But he already outed himself to (the Spurs) and family when he proclaimed he's got a new, yet inferior or faux love. He wants to come back but is too embarassed about the foolish decision. It's classic.
Mouse, all you have to do is: Go to center court at the next family gathering (Spurs Home Game) and profess your love in front of the family.
That just might work.
20 reasons why Alice wont beat Spurs in playoffs.
1. Duncan
2. Parker
3. Manu
4. Bowen (owns Dirk Chokemaster)
5. Finley (pay up es)
6. Van Exel (owned)
7. Barry
8. Rasho (hate to admit it)
9. Nazr
10. Barry
11. Dirk the choke master
12. Cuban is the gayest owner ever (metophoricly speaking, realistically thinking)
13. Even Sean Marks owns most of the Alice starters
14. Who is posting on who's mesage board?
15. Spurs 3, Alice 0
16. Alice consistant 2 round maxers
17. Did I mention Duncan?
18. Mouse predictions favor Spurs
19. Kori or Spursgirl will hook me up with playoff tickets, therefore garunteeing a win.
20. Spurstalk simply owns any and all Alice message boards
This is not really a bad list, I kinda like it, It's good to have a fantasy type post like this to read to the kids at night before bed time.
It has all the makings of a harry potter , lord of the rings adventure.
But it's Friday morning time to wake up Spur fans and face reality,
This is the list that really counts.
Why the Spurs won't repeat...............
#10 They are soft and soft teams don't have what it takes to defend a le.
#9 They have coach Pop who has never won back to back Championships. and will never win one as long as Rasho is a starter.
#8 When a team like the Spursd are so desperate to start a player like Rasho? then they are in very serious trouble, and teams in trouble don't repeat.
#7 Even though the whole world has a boycott on France? The Spurs have a French man on there team and the whole world knows not to trust the French,
#6 The Spurs owner is to drunk to figure out Finley is a Maverick, and will choke on purpose to sabotage the Spurs chances for a repeat,
#5 The greatest fans in the NBA are the Dallas Maverick fans,
#4 The Dallas Mavericks have the riches owner in the history of the NBA Mark (money bags) Cuban
#3 The greatest player in the history of sports Dirk Zee German is a Dallas Maverick
#2 The greatest NBA coach in the history of Sports , The little General is In charge of the Dallas Mavericks.
#1 The 2006 NBA Champs The Mighty Mighty Dallas Mavericks are not about to let that happen,
Oh, and mouse, I almost forgot; some family members prove to be unforgiving, so there is a chance that you may get "whacked".
Mouse, which type of troll are you I wonder?
or
with the money I still owe on child support? they would be doing me a favor.
Meltdowns suck.
.
...soft teams are teams that nobody praises for its defense. The Spurs are ALWAYS one of THE TOP DEFENSIVE TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE. They have one of the best shotblocker & defender in Tim Duncan. And Tim Duncan is no doubt one of the top rebounder in the league,AND HE DOES NOT USE HIS BUTT TO STOP A PLAYER NAMED AI.
..last year it was "Tim Duncan cannot win a le w/o David Robinson", the Spurs proved you wrong, mouse. Nobody bothered to ask you what u think after we won in June.#9 They have coach Pop who has never won back to back Championships. and will never win one as long as Rasho is a starter.
Pray for a non-repeat for the Spurs this season, mouse. PRAY HARD coz we'll get back at you in June.
.#8 When a team like the Spursd are so desperate to start a player like Rasho? then they are in very serious trouble, and teams in trouble don't repeat
..why the Mavs are so desperate to start a player like Dampier? You shld have inked ShaQ or J"Neal, or Brad Miller. ohh I forgot, Shaq won't play for losers. Ran out of Cash?
..that NOT nice, mouse.#7 Even though the whole world has a boycott on France? The Spurs have a French man on there team and the whole world knows not to trust the French,
...the owner is loved by the fans and the media. Ever hear of anybody from the media attacking Holt? He respects other people. He does not call other people "idiots".#6 The Spurs owner is to drunk to figure out Finley is a Maverick, and will choke on purpose to sabotage the Spurs chances for a repeat,
...can't even win a series in the playoffs against D'Antoni. Needs improvement there....But, have potential.Too premature & an insult if I'll try to compare him to Pops, so I won't.#2 The greatest NBA coach in the history of Sports , The little General is In charge of the Dallas Mavericks.
and;
Can't even beat Manu's accomplishments. Can't even win a Euro Championship Gold.Dirk Nowitski the greatest player in the history of Sports?
Great sense of humor, but nice try.
Rack this man !
sorry mouse but you just got SERVED
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions