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    I take it Capitol Police don't wear body cams? Otherwise I'm sure we'd be seeing some insane POV video by now.
    not 100% sure, this is recalled by heart, I think Capitol Police answers directly to Congress.

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    other reputational damage


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    Guy seems to be well regarded. Shame.

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    Trump's patriotic myrmidons aren't done yet



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    Trump's patriotic myrmidons aren't done yet





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    If you want to understand Trumpism, look no further than authoritarian Islamist movements worldwide, especially in Turkey which used to be secular

    Both groups:
    - Get brainwashed by exploiting their fear of the "other" (immigrants, minorities, liberals for Trumpers; the West, non-Muslims, neighbor nations for Islamists)
    - Believe that they are a persecuted minority despite literally being part of the majority race/religion in their respective countries
    - Hold outlandish beliefs about a "Day of Reckoning" (the QAnon fantasy, Holy War and Judgement Day)
    - Ignore/break laws because they view themselves as the good guys / patriots / chosen ones
    - Blame the "enemy" when the hits the fan (Islamists blame CIA/Mossad, Trumpers blame Antifa/BLM/false flags)

    The big difference, of course, is that Trumpism is 5 years old, while modern Islamism has been around for decades. Right now Trumpers are disorganized and incompetent, but they are not a fringe group. They come from all walks of life, and have a strong presence in the government, police, military and the church. It took Turkey a while to move from secularism to Islamic authoritarianism, but that slide became irreversible once it gathered momentum

    I'm not sure what the answer is. In the hands of a skilled authoritarian, the working class has historically proved easy to manipulate on the basis of religion/culture/race. Sometimes it takes a national crisis or external threat to unite people and overcome internal divisions. In the meantime, here's hoping that the Trump movement doesn't find a charismatic leader.
    wonder if susan collins was on to something


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    If you want to understand Trumpism, look no further than authoritarian Islamist movements worldwide, especially in Turkey which used to be secular

    Both groups:
    - Get brainwashed by exploiting their fear of the "other" (immigrants, minorities, liberals for Trumpers; the West, non-Muslims, neighbor nations for Islamists)
    - Believe that they are a persecuted minority despite literally being part of the majority race/religion in their respective countries
    - Hold outlandish beliefs about a "Day of Reckoning" (the QAnon fantasy, Holy War and Judgement Day)
    - Ignore/break laws because they view themselves as the good guys / patriots / chosen ones
    - Blame the "enemy" when the hits the fan (Islamists blame CIA/Mossad, Trumpers blame Antifa/BLM/false flags)

    The big difference, of course, is that Trumpism is 5 years old, while modern Islamism has been around for decades. Right now Trumpers are disorganized and incompetent, but they are not a fringe group. They come from all walks of life, and have a strong presence in the government, police, military and the church. It took Turkey a while to move from secularism to Islamic authoritarianism, but that slide became irreversible once it gathered momentum

    I'm not sure what the answer is. In the hands of a skilled authoritarian, the working class has historically proved easy to manipulate on the basis of religion/culture/race. Sometimes it takes a national crisis or external threat to unite people and overcome internal divisions. In the meantime, here's hoping that the Trump movement doesn't find a charismatic leader.
    Trumpism has only been around for a few years, but the sense of grievance and en lement has been building up ever since the inception of Fox News started creating a politically expedient narrative that the conservative politicians could use to fleece the rubes.

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