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    you back your points up with thoughts - your thoughts and your perspective - same as everyone else on this message board that you critique.
    What then cons utes "backup"? Pointing out that the Spurs have never gone into a season in recent memory with only 4 swingmen is not a "thought", it's reality.


    You can't argue with the results - You think Holt is cheap and that the Spurs should spend money to "develop" people who won't get any minutes on this team. some people, including Holt - disagree with you and they win championships. Why should the Spurs invest money on a young talent with say a 3-year deal to "develop" him on the bench and in practice and then see him go elsewhere? - those types of players you have mentioned are available every summer and in trades all the time -- and with this salary cap structure it will always be that way.

    The Spurs have spent money to develop young players before (see Jackson, Stephen; Brown, Devin; Rose, Malik, etc...). They've spent $ to carry depth before. , they've paid guys more in SA to not play (ie Smith, Steve; Mercer, Ron).

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    dpn against raptors=devin brown

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    Is Devin injured or just not getting the system yet? I thought a healthy Devin would be pushing Giricek at this point.

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    Devin wanted a higher-yeild multi year contract. It was made obvious that he wanted more than the Spurs were offering, not only in terms of $ but in terms of minutes.

    So your point is fundamentally unsound.

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    Lest I forget that depth allows you to rest your starters more during the regular season and to help you weather injuries easier. So there, that should get you who are just joining this discussion up to speed.

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    Devin wanted a higher-yeild multi year contract. It was made obvious that he wanted more than the Spurs were offering, not only in terms of $ but in terms of minutes.

    So your point is fundamentally unsound.
    Devin Brown was a restricted free agent and the Spurs would've only had to match a 1 year contract. Being a restricted free agent, Devin had no choice if the Spurs had matched Utah's offer.

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    What then cons utes "backup"? Pointing out that the Spurs have never gone into a season in recent memory with only 4 swingmen is not a "thought", it's reality.





    The Spurs have spent money to develop young players before (see Jackson, Stephen; Brown, Devin; Rose, Malik, etc...). They've spent $ to carry depth before. , they've paid guys more in SA to not play (ie Smith, Steve; Mercer, Ron).

    and what makes you think they need these "players?" What is devin brown going to contribute ? Youth does not equal talent all the time and the players you name are a dime a dozen. They are everywhere - they can call up some dude from the NBDL - sign someone from overseas or from the CBA to fill these "holes" you perceive that the Spurs have.
    - they have FIn, Barry, Manu, Bowen and you don't think Nick can play the 2 ? he did it when he was in Dallas.
    When February gets here - after the all-star game and the roster is set - I think there might be a change or two by then - just my thoughts.

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    I'm still waiting for anyone to produce a $5 million, one year deal for a vet IR player that had been made in the past.

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    Brown was good enough to have been the Spurs' primary backup 2/3 last season.

    NVE at the 2 is not appealing. Your D is F'ed up whenever he's at that spot.

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    I'm still waiting for anyone to produce a $5 million, one year deal for a vet IR player that had been made in the past.
    Mercer & SSmith might as well have been.

    If you disagree, go with Lynch or GRobinson instead of Brown then.

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    Mercer & SSmith might as well have been.
    Might has well have been <> was.

    Mercer was a throw-in on a trade.

    Smith was our starter after the trade.
    If you disagree, go with Lynch or GRobinson instead of Brown then.
    I never disagreed with that. They're still out there as is Spree.

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    What? The Spurs paid for guys they didn't want before.

    Anyways, produce for me one team that has signed a player to a minimum contract to sit on IR. Feel free to litigate that too, if you like.

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    Anyways, produce for me one team that has signed a player to a minimum contract to sit on IR.
    That's not what Brown was going to get and not what you're ing about, so quit trying to change the subject.

    Why would I argue against something with which I agree?

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    Well that's the greater point. They signed no one. You cannot paint taking on a minimum 1 year contract as being excessive.

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    Well that's the greater point. They signed no one.
    Yeah, since the Spurs didn't carry the full 15 on Nov 1, they'll never sign anyone the rest of the season.

    Oops, they did sign #14 and are reportedly inquiring about #15.

    Good for a couple weeks of "Holt is cheap" post count padding though....

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    Wow, they signed a rookie to a 1 year, non-guaranteed deal after 2 of 4 swings went down with injury and another is at less than 100%.

    Impressive.

    Reportedly they wanted to retain Brown too.

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    Reportedly they wanted to retain Brown too.
    If they didn't sign Finley.

    Whoop-de-do.

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    So we're supposed to feel good about them waiting until they had major injury problems to sign a rook to a non-guaranteed deal when there are more experienced players available?

    Outside of the knee-jerk Spurs apologists, this is not a pleasant thought.

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    So we're supposed to feel good about them waiting until they had major injury problems to sign a rook to a non-guaranteed deal when there are more experienced players available?
    Who knows if those players haven't already been contacted?

    It's not like anyone called the GRob signing.

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    Why wait?

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    It takes two to tango. Could be the experienced players are listening to or waiting for other offers.

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    So we hope.

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    Truth is we don't know.

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    Well, they could very be trying to get through the year with only 4...

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