You are RC Buford

[timvp]

I agree that Brand is the type of player that you bend over backwards for. If you can get him, you get him.

[pfc2002]

Not my first option, but in the off-chance they could get an oral agreement from Elton and get Malone to play one season it doesn't seem too bad. I love Jax, but I'd move him in a second to get Brand.

you're the guy that said you were shocked and awed about my ideas' being so bad right right? This is the worst one I've heard so far.

You'd get rid of an important memeber of what looks to be a championship team that has given us a new look will sign for realitively cheap for Karl Malone and an oral commitment from EBrand? you'd be laughed out any GMs office in the nba (even Scott Layden) if you gave that plan AND mentioned you thought you knew basketball in the same sentence. that is truly priceless...

[genghisrex]

Well, of course. SJax >>> Brand. Duh. Idiots.

[pfc2002]

hehehhe... that's your response. I don't even know what to say to you ghengis you either a) thought altanta would have made a deal for DFerry and SSmith for SAR or b) can't admit that now that we are primed for a championship shipping either BBowen or Malik for SAR was absolutely stupid. You've proven your (lack) of basketball smarts.

the point is SJAX + whoevever after winning a championship >>>> EBrand in 2004 with 40 year old Karl Malone. I can't imagine anyone who knows the buisness of basketball wouldn't smile when they heard that.

[genghisrex]

pfc, you've hardly proven your point w.r.t. to Atlanta. The reason the Hawks wouldn't go for that is because they wanted equivalent talent -- i.e. SAR is worth boat loads more than Smitty + Rose/Bowen/Kerr/Ferry.

[pfc2002]

You can never know how we would have done with SAR on this team. What we do know is that we look like we are going to win it all without him + will have room for a Max FA next year. ALSO 2 very important pieces do things that SAR couldn't Bowen is the best perimeter defender we have, Malik can play center and clear some space (in fact he can guard shaq) -- SAR can do neither. definately not a sure thing that we'd be a better team with SAR on it.

We win the championship and we have the cap space, Bowen and Malik were important parts pretty mucheveryone this side of you will acknowledge that it was a blessing that it didn't happen.

FYI to the folks out there. the goal is to win as many championships as you can NOT find a guy willing to get paid MAX money. THANKS

[genghisrex]

You can never know how we would have done with SAR on this team. What we do know is that we look like we are going to win it all without him + will have room for a Max FA next year. ALSO 2 very important pieces do things that SAR couldn't Bowen is the best perimeter defender we have, Malik can play center and clear some space (in fact he can guard shaq) -- SAR can do neither. definately not a sure thing that we'd be a better team with SAR on it.

You're absolutely right -- not a sure thing. Had the SAR deal been on the table -- which we know it wasn't -- it's a risk I would have taken unless we knew that another top player (Kidd, O'Neal, or Brand) was a lock to come here. I'm not ashamed by that as you apparently think that I should be.

We win the championship and we have the cap space

Cap space is meaningless unless we use it, which you apparently are opposed to doing.

Bowen and Malik were important parts pretty mucheveryone this side of you will acknowledge that it was a blessing that it didn't happen.

I don't think many people are complaining about it not happening, but at the same time I don't think it's quite as black-and-white as you'd like to think. I'm happy where the Spurs are, no doubt. I believe we'd be here with SAR, and I'd be happy there too. I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way, but if I am, so what? I have my convictions and I'm sticking to them.

Believe it or not, pfc, I'm not quite as vested in the FO's moves as you may think. I'm a big Spurs fan, I'm opinionated, and I like to play "fantasy GM" as much as anybody else. When it comes down to it, though, I fully recognize that Pop/RC are calling the shots and that no matter how much I campaign for this move or protest another it matters exactly diddly squat.

[pfc2002]

Believe it or not, pfc, I'm not quite as vested in the FO's moves as you may think. I'm a big Spurs fan, I'm opinionated, and I like to play "fantasy GM" as much as anybody else. When it comes down to it, though, I fully recognize that Pop/RC are calling the shots and that no matter how much I campaign for this move or protest another it matters exactly diddly squat.

I'm a big spurs fan too and also like to play "fantasy gm" -- I too know that no one that matters gives a rats arse about what I think. Pop/RC have done a great job so I trust they got some good stuff up their sleaves.

I like that people have opinions and I like having an opinion. It's just when some one someone blasts mine and says they are "shocked and awed" at how stupid it was and then comes up with that ...

[baseline bum]

pfc, you ignorant - you want to sign a ty rebounder like Rasho just so you can be under the cap to make the same offer to Manu that the team can make no matter who it signs. You have Rasho and Scola taking Rose's place too, so don't give me this about being loyal to the players who get us there.

Sign Rasho at $5 million (no ing way - he'll cost at least $6 M)
Sign Scola at $2 million
Sign Jax at $3 million
trade first rounder next season
draft scrub Chris Kaman this season & give 3 yr guaranteed deal
sign a bunch of ty scrubs to one-year deals

2004-05 comitted salary

$13.2795 M - Tim Duncan salary slot
$5.5 M - Rasho
$4.725 M - Rose
$4.106667 M - Bowen
$3.3 M - Jackson
$2.2 M - Scola
$1.545 M - Parker
$1.4677 M - 4 empty roster spots under 11
$0.7197 M - scrub Chris Kaman

TOTAL - $36.844 M

Assume a cap at $42.5 M
capspace = $5.656 M

MCX will likely be about $5 M, so you've wasted $7 M of cap space just to pay Manu an extra $650 K. Brilliant

[Peter]

Pass on Kidd/JO'Neal/Payton for Nesterovic? F*ck that.

[pfc2002]

what kind of dip are you?? you think Chris Kaman is going to be available as the last pick in the first round -- you are absolutely on crack -- the guy will be top 10 NO DOUBT. If you think Chris Kaman is a scrub you haven't watched college basketball at all.

The numbers 5 Million were the one assumed by Timvp in his post on numbers to work with -- I agree there is no way he'll get 5 million but I was workign with the numbers we got.

what kind of re are you? Karl Malone instead of SJax so you could get Brand in 2004. that's epic... win a championship sign some fossil so you can get your max free agent.

you think scola is going to get 2 million???? are you crazy?
that's like the salary of the 10 th pick in the first round

[Man in Black1]

:brotha

Hmm....

Chris Kaman....

I look at him and I think back in all the basketball I've watched and I see....2 players. Kent Benson or Steve Stiponovich.

All-world in College and then in the NBA...mediocre at best.

[Patrick Davis]

Kaman may be allright, I'll take someone I know what I'm getting.

[KoriEllis]

So I guess we are all in agreement that RC's job this summer won't be easy -- but it sure will be fun! 2

[Big Syke]

Kaman is good if you haven't seen him play you will be surprised.

[T Park Num 9]

J oneal

Voshon Leonard

Kendall Girl errr Gill



resign Speedy Jack and Manu to an extension.

[genghisrex]

Manu can't be extended, T Park. The CBA only allows contracts of 4+ years to be extended.

[timvp]

The more I see Parker perform and the more I watch JO'Neal, the more I think that the answer to the riddle of Summer 2003 resides in Indy.

[Marcus Bryant]

WTF?

The Spurs can pay Manu the MCE in 2004. You don't pass on a Kidd or JO'Neal for him. Sorry.

[Nbadan]

I don't think the Spurs pass on Jermaine or Jason either, but what if they pass on San Antonio? Let's have a discussion about who the Spurs should go after if O'Neal and Kidd are out of the picture.

I for one, believe the Spurs should take a 2 year chance on Mourning.

[T Park Num 9]

prob is marcus, in two years Manu may be worth MORE than the MCE.

Give manu two offseasons to improve and gel with Duncan??

Good lord.




Jermaine Oneal
resign Willis
resign Jack
resign Speedy
vet min for Mike Batiste
vet min for Lucious Harris


Trade draft pick for future number ones with teams like Clippers or Bucks.

Especially the Bucks.
Who will be a lottery team this time next year.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Kaman's stock is dropping. No thanks anyways, I'd rather offer PJ Brown.

AHF

[T Park Num 9]

Kaman is a stiff.

Can you say, Greg Kite?


I still go along with the Spurs draft someone for someone and trade him somewhere else for future picks or second round picks
or who knows, a package deal for a certain player.

[Rick Von Braun]

Well... Chris Kaman stock didnt' drop that much... he was pick #7 after all.

-R

[Rick Von Braun]

Nbadan said:
I for one, believe the Spurs should take a 2 year chance on Mourning.

Hmm.. that might be an intresting idea if JO, Kidd, and Brand are not available. I guess it all depends on the medical report.

-R