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  1. #76
    scott
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    B. Miller >>> Olowakandi

    Should we get to the point where superstars are no longer a possibillity- I would advocate the following:

    note: IMO, Maggette and Jackson are mutually exclusive. We cannot have both.

    1. BMiller/CMaggette
    2. PJBrown/CMaggette
    3. BMiller/SJackson
    4. PJBrown/SJackson
    5. JHoward/CMaggette
    6. JHoward/SJackson
    7. AMourning/CMaggette
    8. AMourning/SJackson
    9. Save Cap Space for 04
    10. MOlowakandi/Anyone

  2. #77
    Ghost Writer
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    scott, none of your scenarios are all that overwhelming, but they are probably closer to what we'll wind up with.


    P.S.

    I don't want to suffer through a lost Alonzo Mourning season and I am skeptical of the "Corey Magette and a big man" scenarios. I think it will be the so-so big man and left over money to re-up our current nucleus.

    Winning the le changed priorities and expectations.


  3. #78
    IcemanCometh
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    uhm when stephen jackson was a fa i said we should sign him cause he might develop into something. about the only person who agreed with me was timvp or maybe spursfan.
    2 years later you jump on the jax bandwagon.

    face it ghost you're nothing but a frontrunning chump. you live in new england but you support the yankees what kinda crap is that. and you probably didn't become a spurs fan until 99.

  4. #79
    Jimcs50
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    The only one of us that has any vested interest in this FA discussion is me. I have $100 bet with pfc that we are going to get O'Neal, so you guys can all just kick back and relax and let me do the worrying. BTW, where is pfc???? I have not seen him in at least a month....maybe he knows something we do not know and has headed for Mexico with my $100.Ya think?

  5. #80
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    Brad Miller, an All-Star last season, will command in the neighborhood of $10 million on the open market.
    From who? The Clips?

    Let's break this down Ghost...

    The only teams with any kind of room like that are Utah, SA, Clips, and Denver.

    Utah is going to blow its wad on Andre Miller.
    Denver is going to open the wallet for Gilbert Arenas.
    The Clips are the Clips.

    There is no open market, and with the cap tightening up teams are more leary of taking on big contracts.

    Brad Miller's new deal will start somewhere in the 5-7 million dollar range.

    As you say, do the math.

    AHF

  6. #81
    Ghost Writer
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    IceMan, you are dellusional. Being from the East Coast and a watcher of Nets games, Stephen Jackson was on my radar screen about the time you were smelling your cat's breath.

    You're a cheap imitation of me with all the flaws of a knock-off.



    Cap Space != Superstar Signing

  7. #82
    baseline bum
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    No freaking way Brad Miller pulls anything close to $10 million. $6 - $7 million will be his market value. I could see Olowokandi at $8 or $9 million if Denver gets desperate.

  8. #83
    IcemanCometh
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    whatever ghost all you had a hardon for was gary payton

    too bad we never made that trade huh

  9. #84
    Ghost Writer
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    If we made the trade for Gary Payton, we might be going for our third le in a row next season.

    Dude, you're known for Lenny Cooke and posting like a re .

    Go screw.


  10. #85
    IcemanCometh
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    yeah right cause i said with the 2nd to last pick the spurs should take a look at lenny cooke? stephen jackson used to be lenny cooke.

    i was the first one to say the spurs would not sign jason kidd, now you claim you knew all along.

    somehow all of my views wind up in your posts later on, with you claiming them as your own.

    i'd tell you to form your own opinions but you're not intelligent enough to really contribute. so next time you steal someone elses ideas give them credit

  11. #86
    Jimcs50
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    I would never claim either of your posts.

  12. #87
    timvp
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    The Spurs don't need Maggette. What can he give the Spurs that Bowen, Jack and Manu can't? That doesn't make any sense.

    Olowokandi hasn't tried yet in the NBA so it's hard to figure if he's worth anything. I've up-and-down on whether I'd like to see him on the Spurs. My first instinct is no but he might not be too bad. He's a big body, has solid low post moves, can block a few shots and would allow Rose to play a big role in years to come.

    The drop off after O'Neal, Brand and Kidd is pretty dramatic. So if one of those three isn't signed, there will be plenty of irked Spurs fans.

  13. #88
    Marcus Bryant
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    If we made the trade for Gary Payton, we might be going for our third le in a row next season.
    , if the Spurs made the trade for Kobe Bryant they could be going for 3 in a row right now. That Payton deal is nothing more than an urban legend and for once do us all a favor and shut the **** up about it.

    I love how the Spurs with Mark Bryant starting at center with no bench was going to beat the Lakers simply because of adding Gary ing Payton last year. Your tales are boring.

  14. #89
    Ghost Writer
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    IceMan, you have some serious issues. How come no one else besides you disputes the attribution of my long-running takes, be them good ones or bad ones?

    You're like a jealous, whiny b1tch fighting for recogmition that you're never going to get.

    Know your role and get in the back of the line, son.



  15. #90
    IcemanCometh
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    maggette gives us a big 2g that can create his own shot and defend.

    all those times you saw us struggling to score was because we did not have that kind of player.

  16. #91
    Ghost Writer
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    "No freaking way Brad Miller pulls anything close to $10 million. $6 - $7 million will be his market value. I could see Olowokandi at $8 or $9 million if Denver gets desperate." — baseline bum
    Wrong.

    Do you think Olowokandi's market value is higher than Brad Miller's?

    Brad Miller will absolutey command a salary higher than $7 million. Try looking up some of the high salaries big men are commanding these days.


  17. #92
    Marcus Bryant
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    Ice's takes, while sometimes a bit radical, are far more informative, accurate, and enjoyable to read than your PMS laden drivel that you spew in this forum. Chrissakes the Spurs just won the le with a young ing crew, the best player in the game, and have $15 mil in cap room to roll this summer and you're ing about the possibility that the Spurs might not end up with the perfect free agent. Enough already. If you cannot enjoy this moment you need a lobotomy.

  18. #93
    Marcus Bryant
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    Who the **** is going to pay Brad Miller $10 millon?

  19. #94
    Ghost Writer
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    DOn't kill the messenger, Marcus.

    You putting over IceMan speaks volumes of your posting level, Marcus.

    Again we enter another summer of you shooting for the stars, while I have both feet firmly planted on the ground.

    Who knows?

    Maybe this is the summer you're finally closer to the truth.

    I certainly hope so, given that the climate for the Spurs to sign a superstar free agent will never be better than now.


  20. #95
    Jimcs50
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    Who the **** is going to pay Brad Miller $10 millon?

    Um...Spurswoman maybe?

  21. #96
    Marcus Bryant
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    Again we enter another summer of you shooting for the stars, while I have both feet firmly planted on the ground.
    Right. You said the Spurs wouldn't win a le during these two years. You also said once upon a time that the Spurs would never get a free agent of DA's caliber for the mid level exception.

    Here we enter another summer with you ing about something. No doubt you play a woman in the sack because you are a goddam expert when it comes to providing a good quality in here.

  22. #97
    Marcus Bryant
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    You putting over IceMan speaks volumes of your posting level, Marcus.
    Ice actually knows the game and the cap, unlike yourself. But I suppose Ice didn't start 297 threads whining about Gary Payton so he's not a quality poster like you.

  23. #98
    Ghost Writer
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    Well, gee, you sure put me in my place.

    First of all, I never said the Spurs wouldn't win it during the Holt-ing Pattern. I insisted on trades that would immediately increase their chances to win. And while I recognized that the Spurs front office would not make any major moves until summer 2003, you were still wrapped up in acquiring Latrell Sprewell, dingbat.

    Secondly, I laid out the necessary rotation modifications to give the Spurs a fighting chance this playoffs. This was right before you insisted that the Spurs would never take Steve Smith out of the starting lineup, pal.


    Lastly, you are the one getting all uptight when I bring up that despite having everything in the world to offer the superstar free agents, that does not guarantee any of them are coming here. I wager that if it comes down to brass tacks, the Spurs may go ahead and sign Olowokandi to replace Robinson for between $7-10 million.

    You can't handle that kind of disappointment. Well, that's not my problem.

    I see this summer's acquisition as gravy after winning another le in a rebuilding year.

    Now don't get your panties in a bunch.



  24. #99
    Marcus Bryant
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    Wow. Mr. 20/20 Hindsight strikes again.

    The only thing you've done is repeat "Holting Pattern" a couple thousand times. Of course, originally it meant the Spurs weren't doing what was necessary to win a championship. I'd hate to point that out because it tears to shreds your claim that you saw this coming.

    No doubt now you will claim that it means something else.

    Lastly, you are the one getting all uptight when I bring up that despite having everything in the world to offer the superstar free agents, that does not guarantee any of them are coming here.
    NO ING ! WOW. NO ONE ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATED THAT PRIOR TO YOU POSTING IT IN THIS FORUM.

  25. #100
    Ghost Writer
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    You're going off the beaten path. Again.

    This thread is about you wanting to believe that the Spurs will simply have their pick of the superstar free agent lot and subsequently getting pissed off when I point out to you that the free agents still have the power to re-sign with their current teams.

    The Spurs may indeed have to "settle" on an Olowokandi, because their are no guarantees with cap space.

    Come to terms with the fact that despite having everything lined up perfectly to sign the superstar of your dreams, the Spurs are still the ones who will be trying to lure the superstar free agent to sign on the dotted line.



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