How much exactly is SJackson supposed to make this summer? $7 mil? Spare us with your pedestrian takes.
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Why are the Knicks so much more valuable than the Spurs? How about he Lakers?
A big chuck of money is split between the teams. That's why the nba isn't mlb. HOWEVER local market is very important. we lucked into the nba. Thank god for sbc also. They aren't investing in the spurs (when they actually owned a piece), it's important for the city to have that team so they are helping out the city.
What SBC has done is a drop in the bucket. The major portion is coming from the hospitality tax. And that's the county not the city.
LA and NYC have metro areas exceeding 10 million in population. What's the Lakers' payroll at?
He won't make over MLE but 1 million isn't chump change right? I'm telling you we won't pay lux tax. Peter Holt has said it, anyone who knows anything about business knows it too. You sure as haven't proved we wouldn't go over the lux tax even with all you finangling. let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say 8 million lost via tax -- that isn't chump change. That's one year and it get's worse after that. If god forbid anyone get's hurt we'll lose a fortune -- we win the championship everyear and we break even...
Peter Holt has said it? That's a new one.
As for our "finangling" at least we have bothered to run the fvcking numbers instead of just blindly speculate as you have done. For someone who knows so much about doing bidness you haven't brought much to this discussion.
pfc's economic plan
Duncan - $15 M
Parker - $11 M
Manu - $11 M
Rasho - $7.5 M
Jax - $7 M
Rose - $5.775 M
Speedy - $2.2 M
draft pick - $800K
fill out the roster with - $2M
TOTAL - $60.275 M, over the luxury tax
I'm not talking about the stadium I'm talking about when they helped buy the team from Red so he wouldn't move it.
Los Angeles Lakers NBA Jerry Buss $426 million
New York Knicks NBA C. Dolan/J. Dolan $398 million
San Antonio Spurs NBA Peter Holt $242 million
why do you think that is?
FYI,
Milwaukee Bucks NBA Herb Kohl $168 million
we'd be even lower than that without this incredible team and flexibility
pfc doesn't want to improve a roster that is exactly one win better than Sacramento and is losing its best interior defender.
NYC and LA have media markets that dwarf SA by a larger factor than those team valuations do.
There's no doubt that I'd rather have JO or Brand, but you could bet your ass I'd take Kidd over a few scrubs. We would have more than enough trade value on board to make a change if necessary.
dude please get a grip. All I'm saying is we won't pay lux tax. just settle down and admit you could keep this team together under the lux tax. You as you've illustrated can't if we get a max FA... ok.
Yeah, SA won't be paying the luxury tax as either the league wide salaries and benefits won't exceed 63.33% of BRI in 2005 or the luxury tax will be done away with by the owners before then.
did I ever say that it was a exact ratio? Youre right that CBA helps small market teams -- that's why I mentioned the nba not being mlb. It doesn't make a level playing field. We are the SMALLEST market.NYC and LA have media markets that dwarf SA by a larger factor than those team valuations do.
The point is that the magnitudes are not even close. You are looking at two metro areas that are 10X as large as SA with respect to population. And let's not forget that the SA MSA has one of the lower per capita income averages in the US.
All that and the value of the Knicks and Lakers is only 1.5 to not even 2 times as much as the Spurs.
baseline thinks that the spurs will pay lux taxpfc doesn't want to improve a roster that is exactly one win better than Sacramento and is losing its best interior defender
baseline thinks a YOUNG team that kicked ass without David will be worse next year
You nitwit this is not just about next season. It is about the next decade. This summer will be the Spurs' last real opportunity to acquire an impact player via free agency for a long time. The Spurs have specifically planned for this day since at least 1996.
NY Knicks have the worse run team in the league and they are still worth more than the spurs. Spurs are worth money precisely because they aren't paying the tax and have TD. They're worth money because someone could move the team and make a killing...
DUDE the team is young. We have the horses to be a dynasty. We can't keep the team together and sign a max FA.
Options:
- Keep the team together and don't pay Lux tax
- Sign a max FA and lose other players and don't pay Lux tax (after 2004)
- Sell team to Cuban and pay Lux tax
I'll take option 1 -- the one that will win the most championships
One of the reasons we are kicking the crap out of the Lakers (and it's not over btw), is because their supporting cast has taken a huge nosedive. What happens if they sign Payton, make a few trades to get younger and make another run next season? Kobe and Shaq aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
We need to try to match their big two and then let our depth beat them off the bench. Kidd/Jo/Brand and Duncan would give us an even larger edge to begin with.
What if Cuban buys himself a decent interior?
Sacto isn't getting any worse on us either.
There's no question that we need to grab an all-star player if one's available. We can't stand pat. As much as I liked the two decent player strategy earlier in the season, I've come to realize that it's tough to beat two superstars plus good depth.
I think this organization will do what it takes to stay on top. They're frugal, but they play the game pretty well. With any luck, they'll revamp the CBA and do away with the lux tax like MB said.
Then WTF aren't the Lakers worth at least double what the Spurs are? Or are they a poorly run team as well? Give it up already.
****, if the Spurs had to pay a luxury tax of $5 mil a year for the next 10 years (assuming a discount rate of 10%) that would reduce the value of the team by only $30 mil. At least run the fvcking numbers before you type.
Put away the pipe. This team does not have the talent as it stands to be a "dynasty". Your basic assumption that no other team is going to improve is ridiculous.DUDE the team is young. We have the horses to be a dynasty. We can't keep the team together and sign a max FA
Another idiotic assumption of yours is that the Spurs will always have an opportunity to add a superstar level talent via free agency. Sorry, that's simply not the case.
And finally it has been proven that the Spurs can afford to keep the team intact and add a max free agent. You have offered nothing but ancedotal arguments without any reference to the actual terms of the NBA's Collective Bargaining Agreement nor bothered to do the most basic of projections of the Spurs' future payroll. In short, you don't know a damn thing so do us all the favor of shutting the **** up.
you're an mba stundent? scary... get a ing clue.
you're an mba stundent? scary... get a ing clue.
Yes I am . Unfortunately you decided to **** with the wrong one.
do you read? I never said that we could add an allstar anytime. I said we have the team NOW. we don't need an allstar. You've proved that we can keep the team together by going over the Lux tax -- I'm saying that's not an option.
We've kicked ass without DRob, we'd be adding another player how the **** is it that I haven't proven we will be better?
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