^^^and now they're all buying plasma screens with govt. money.
Your sadly mistaken. I have seen fat asses who live in HUd's and have a full refrigerator. THey may not have the best threads or a decent car, but they are in noway comparable to a Lazarus, or those kids you see on tv from South america. You want to see real poverty, cross the border or go to china where people don't have running water or hot water to boil food or anything.
^^^ this coming from someone who hates the poor. No thanks. Don't need that lecture.
Well i'm deeply not sorry you feel that way. If you think truly think that real reforms that will actually help the poor is evil contrast to just throwing money at the probem, then you are delusional. Keep your prayers to yourself. Pray that you become logical. I don't knock what you do. Helping poor people is a gift and privelege. But at the same time, idiots on this board want to ing rebuild the ninth ward and bring it back to its glory, and not help those people change their behavior.
You don't know what you are talking about. Really, you don't. You speak from hate. You speak so much from hate, you seem to have some issues going on in your own head. I pray that you stop being so hateful. You speak and rant and hate about something you know nothing about. No, you do not know anything about poor ppl. Let's just end that right there, you do not know, or care to know or care to try and understand. You speak from hate, and ppl like you are really hurting the cause to help this situation.
Being poor is a vicous cycle. Hardly do you see people move out of their condition when they have it made with 50 dollar rent and a food card. With those benefits, there is no incentive to work. There is no hope, and if you keep don't change your methods with dealing with them, then you embolden their dependence. Where in my thread did i say i hate the poor. The only people i hate are those who use them politicaly, and have low expectations for them.
Your a in moron and a simpleton. Post something where i said i hate the poor. I have poor family members, and i love them like anyother family. Your just an ignorant , and think because your progressive that you are the uberjesus who is all altruistic. Get of your high horse.
gtwon is right. Everyone who was in New Orleans by the time Katrina hit didn't graduate high school, had kids early and/or were criminals. It's that simple. Bad things happen to bad people.
Don't worry, I checked on snopes.com to make sure.
On the contrary, i thought a majority had bachelor degrees, and once were the aristocracy of NEw orleans of old, but just went through a dry spell.
Man, if you think i dont know about exceptions to the rule, don't waste your typing.
Not all of the evacuees fit the mold, but a good percentage of them fit one of those charecteristics. Maybe those statistics that prove that education and affluence are related were made up by racist and the white devil. Maybe all those statistics proving that lifestyle does effect income were all made up by republicans and myself.
The sad thing is that democrats like Sharpton and Jackson always went on cable network news show and said the number one factor of poverty in the black community was fatherless children.
I mean TimVp, you hear all the time of how many of those in prison grew up in fatherless homes, and in poverty. Maybe they do have a correlation. Or mayber the fact that up to 70% of all black babies are born into broken homes and fatherless as a statistic has been said by many well respected sociologist and pshycologist.
And alwhile you look at New orleans and you notice that many of those people in there fit the statistic. It's sad. But what's even sadder is inventing excuses for the grownups to allow their kids to grow that way.
Yeah, i bet you there were plenty of people who were honest folks that got trapped. But it's not like the storm happened all of a sudden. There was ample warning and many of them had cars and opted to ride out the storm.
I can excuse the children, but i hold the adults to a higher standard.
Well i'm deeply not sorry you feel that way. If you think truly think that real reforms that will actually help the poor is evil contrast to just throwing money at the probem, then you are delusional. Keep your prayers to yourself. Pray that you become logical. I don't knock what you do. Helping poor people is a gift and privelege. But at the same time, idiots on this board want to ing rebuild the ninth ward and bring it back to its glory, and not help those people change their behavior.
Being poor is a vicous cycle. Hardly do you see people move out of their condition when they have it made with 50 dollar rent and a food card. With those benefits, there is no incentive to work. There is no hope, and if you keep don't change your methods with dealing with them, then you embolden their dependence. Where in my thread did i say i hate the poor. The only people i hate are those who use them politicaly, and have low expectations for them.
The hate is what what you say and how you say it. I never said "just throw money at them". But I tell you what, "cuts" ain't gonna help it. And if you paid attention to any of my posts, you would see that I did mention helping them see other avenues, better opportunities.
And you say 50 dollar rent? you wouldn't want to believe that there are ppl in housing paying 3 to 400 dollars or more for rent, would you? No, that's not important. That 50 dollar person bothers you so much doesn't it? If you knew anything about this situation , you would know these facts, but yes, you do speak from hate. Maybe you should be logical, No, have some compassion and please try not to be so selfish.
Where are you right now? Because we could drive right now to a bridge and find a mother and kids under that bridge right now? Would u like to go see them right now? Or do they scare you? Because they are there right now, thank God it isn't as cold as last night.
And please stop with the "stop acting like poor is a disease" and "poor is not contagious" nonsense. This is like how you defend Bush when you actually do know he's a liar, but they twist it and say ppl are against the troops. Spin is all that is. But we know the truth.
I'm just talking about an issue that many are afraid to talk about. It's a touchy subject isn't it? Why can't you hack it? These are your fellow Americans. Many of the soldiers fighting your war were poor, many of them from the poorest neighborhoods, many minorities. You know, the ones Bush doesn't wanna help.
I say maybe the poor is contagious, maybe the "poor" virus is spreading because many are doing nothing about it. Housing prices have been rising, but yet, no minimum wage increase. 25,000 homeless in San Antonio and we are the #1 largest city in the shortest supply of affordable housing. Poor spreads in part because it's ignored.
And yes, Bush lied.
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So, you resort to cursing at me. The hate is in what you say. I know about poor ppl, you don't, but you still speak garbage and mistruths about them, and I'm ignorant?
And please don't tell me what I think I am. Your hate continues. uberjesus? That's ridiculous, I just try to be nice. There is nothing wrong with that. I haven't cursed you out. I've stayed, I hope, pretty mature about this. But in the end, I am an advocate for the poor. And I will always stay true and know where I came from. I can't ignore it. If you wanna say i'm on a high horse, then your the one that put me there.
I never said I was above anyone, your just angry.
Quit being all Celine Dion and a in Diva. You want to know where i got the 50 dollar rent figure from? People who live in Stone Haven in my town.
The hate is what what you say and how you say it. I never said "just throw money at them". But I tell you what, "cuts" any gonna help it. And if you paid attention to any of my posts, you would see that I did mention helping them see other avenues, better opportunities.
And you say 50 dollar rent? you wouldn't want to believe that there are ppl in housing paying 3 to 400 dollars or more for rent, would you? No, that's not important. That 50 dollar person bothers you so much doesn't it? If you knew anything about this situation , you would know these facts, but yes, you do speak from hate. Maybe you should be logical, No, have some compassion and please try not to be so selfish.
Where are you right now? Because we could drive right now to a bridge and find a mother and kids under that bridge right now? Would u like to go see them right now? Or do they scare you? Because they are there right now, thank God it isn't as cold as last night.
And please stop with the "stop acting like poor is a disease" and "poor is not contagious" nonsense. This is like how you defend Bush when you actually do know he's a liar, but they twist it and say ppl are against the troops. Spin is all that is. But we know the truth.
I'm just talking about an issue that many are afraid to talk about. It's a touchy subject isn't it? Why can't you hack it? These are your fellow Americans. Many of the soldiers fighting your war were poor, many of them from the poorest neighborhoods, many minorities. You know, the ones Bush doesn't wanna help.
I say maybe the poor is contagious, maybe the "poor" virus is spreading because many are doing nothing about it. Housing prices have been rising, but yet, no minimum wage increase. 25,000 homeless in San Antonio and we are the #1 largest city in the shortest supply of affordable housing. Poor spreads in part because it's ignored.
And yes, Bush lied.
You think you won the argument becuase sadly there's a mother with kids living under a bridge. Now how did you go from comparing actual homeless people to Welfare recipients, to which i was actually adressing. Man, i could care less how much you throw money at that mother and children cuz they actually need it. They are the ones who actually deserve our charity.
Nevertheless, no one here is denying that there are homeless people. It's sad that there are homeless. And we have charities to help those in need from all walks of life.
But you need to stop being a big , and stop comparing apples to oranges. You know that while there is those kind of tragic examples of homeless kids and pregnant mothers, there are also welfare queens and pimps who border on s and are able body to get their own job.
But you want to know what's sad for you dip . Bush has not vetoed one bill or another while he has been in office. He has not slashed govt aid to the poor. And at that you want to blame him for all that is bad in this world. You want to use that poor mother and child as propaganda to destroy a man's character so that you could use them for your political advantage.
I see how it works with your type. "I feed you, and therefore i use my status i recieved from your poverty to elevate myself on high ground while i diminish others politically" What is it to you? You help the poor and in turn you use them as a political football to make your opponents feel guilty? Your sad. If i were you i'd keep my job and charity with them apolitical, rather than using those good souls as propaganda for your own beliefs.
But you know what's sadder? There are people in the welfare system who are buying drugs and worthless material with their money and sacriding the system to have the gov buy them their next barbecue, allwhile that money could of been sent to the lady with kids living under the bridge. But you don't see that. All you see is how BUsh is satan for no reason at all.
You mean to tell me if John Kerry were president, the lady and kids would of fared better. Your an extremely sad joke.
You know what me cursing is stupid on my part. Forgive me.
Yet, You may not have cursed me out. But you damn well slandered my name. And I dont respect you for that. Sorry.
Your posts are the joke. Tell me how Bush is helping them. Tell me how Bush is the answer for poverty.Quit being all Celine Dion and a in Diva. You want to know where i got the 50 dollar rent figure from? People who live in Stone Haven in my town.
You think you won the argument becuase sadly there's a mother with kids living under a bridge. Now how did you go from comparing actual homeless people to Welfare recipients, to which i was actually adressing. Man, i could care less how much you throw money at that mother and children cuz they actually need it. They are the ones who actually deserve our charity.
Nevertheless, no one here is denying that there are homeless people. It's sad that there are homeless. And we have charities to help those in need from all walks of life.
But you need to stop being a big , and stop comparing apples to oranges. You know that while there is those kind of tragic examples of homeless kids and pregnant mothers, there are also welfare queens and pimps who border on s and are able body to get their own job.
But you want to know what's sad for you dip . Bush has not vetoed one bill or another while he has been in office. He has not slashed govt aid to the poor. And at that you want to blame him for all that is bad in this world. You want to use that poor mother and child as propaganda to destroy a man's character so that you could use them for your political advantage.
I see how it works with your type. "I feed you, and therefore i use my status i recieved from your poverty to elevate myself on high ground while i diminish others politically" What is it to you? You help the poor and in turn you use them as a political football to make your opponents feel guilty? Your sad. If i were you i'd keep my job and charity with them apolitical, rather than using those good souls as propaganda for your own beliefs.
But you know what's sadder? There are people in the welfare system who are buying crack with their money and sacriding the system to have the gov buy them their next barbecue, allwhile that money could of been sent to the lady with kids living under the bridge. But you don't see that. All you see is how BUsh is satan for no reason at all.
You mean to tell me if John Kerry were president, the lady and kids would of fared better. Your an extremely sad joke.
Ok, your right, all ppl who get welfare are buying crack.
End all assistance now.
Does it make you feel good to call ppl names when you lose arguments? That sounds like a Diva to me.
No, you slandered poor ppl, and that's alot of ppl, and you have lost all credibil y. Sorry.
Ok, your getting worse than a menstuating hag. If bush is helping the poor it won't be becuase of his policies, but because of his personal contributions to charity. You don't know the guy personally and you are an emotional little girl.Your posts are the joke. Tell me how Bush is helping them. Tell me how Bush is the answer for poverty.
Ok, your right, all ppl who get welfare are buying crack.
End all assistance now.
Does it make you feel good to call ppl names when you lose arguments? That sounds like a Diva to me.
But since Bush only strenghted govt spending if he has not helped the poor, then bill clinton hasn't either. But this shouldn't be about partisan politics.
Yeah i know homeless people are poor, but i was talking about welfare recipients who are able bodied.
And don't for the sake of winning the argument generalize my point. I never said all welfare recipients buy drugs. I merely said that those who do while abusing the system are taking the money away from those who actually need it like the homeless lady under the bridge. But no... Your to stuck up your bs rhetoric to acknowledge that that kind of abuse is what is actually hurting that lady.
But go ahead. Just keep on saying i hate the poor. Keep throwing cheapshots at anyone who disagrees with you. If I lost credibility, it wasn't to you.
You lost credibilty when you backed Bush for lying to America.
How did i slander them, by pointing out that amongst them there are people who take advantage of goverment charity and thus at the same time deny the very same people from actually recieving the help?
I'm sorry to warn you, but Poor people are the same as any in respect to bad and good. It's not like they're all saints and m%m's. There like you and me.
What was I doing talking about this issue with u anyway for? Your a Bush backer.
How did i slander them, by pointing out that amongst them there are people who take advantage of goverment charity and thus at the same time deny the very same people from actually recieving the help?
I'm sorry to warn you, but Poor people are the same as any in respect to bad and good. It's not like they're all saints and m%m's. There like you and me.
They are like me and you,
with less.
Maybe, it was my vote that caused poor people to transport from a portal linked to another dimension to all of a sudden appear on Innaguaral day on this earth.
GO back to doing charity. I respected you alot better when you actually were productive.
They are like me and you,
with less.
And like you as well...
but with a brain.
I don't expect for you to respect me. You regularly resort to name calling when someone doesn't agree with you. That was expected. But, just because we disagree and you call me sissy names like Diva's do, I don't hate you. I just wish you weren't so rude and would be open minded to real issues.
I do have a heart though. That's what bothers you so much.
Common G'Town. SA210 was making some reasonable points before you started with the name calling. Totally unneccessary, and totally uncool. You might as well stop typing there because you lost any credibility.Ok, your getting worse than a menstuating hag. If bush is helping the poor it won't be becuase of his policies, but because of his personal contributions to charity. You don't know the guy personally and you are an emotional little girl.
^^HE was making half valid points. HE lost it when he said that i hate poor people and i'm filled with hate. If that's not name calling, then what is.
If i called you a bigot, would that be a valid and reasonable argument?
and as much as i like you. You'd be the last person anyone would ask if they had credibility.
^^go back and read all your posts in all threads. you are filled with alot of anger, not just in this thread. And then you get all ticked off on the subject of helping the poor. You do have anger in you alot of times. It's ok to vent sometimes, but the hate shows.
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