Quote Originally Posted by Nikos
Teams don't win rings for the regular season, but the best teams that usually win les are also excellent regular season teams. Post-season is of course where you can cement your legacy, but sometimes certain franchise players don't have the horses to get the job done. You call Garnett a loser, yet the Wolves were easily le contenders that year when Cassell was healthy. It would be like asking Shaq to win a le without Kobe, that is how valuable Cassell was to them that season. How convenient of you to simply omit that from your KG analysis. True KG hasn't been great in all playoff's, but he isn't been as bad as a Drob has been. Both Drob and KG have had minimal support for most of their careers, this is a big reason why they never have competed for a le.

You simply dismiss Drob because he failed in the playoffs, but by that logic Manu Ginobili was a better player than Drob because he played excellent in the playoffs in 2005. The reason is because his stats were simply superior, so were Tim Duncan's. Actually I could name a bunch of leaders and second/third banana's of playoff teams who have had players do better statistically than Drob did. Does that make them better players because they were given beter cir stances (i.e. better teamattes and more opportunities to have successful playoff runs with several teams).

Now I am not saying Drob is better than Hakeem or Shaq per se, and I do think he did fail a bit in the playoffs -- but it doesn't make him a horrible player in comparison. Regular season is a great indicator of the quality of a basketball player. Even Larry Bird had a bunch of horrible playoff series, but because he makes a few clutch plays and is given excellent support every season, he is remembered as a Top 5 player of all time in most people's eyes. Same with Magic, even though he had a few playoffs that were substandard.

Context does account for something. Maybe Drob was a weaker player in the playoffs, but that doesn't completely eradicate the fact that he had some of the best regular seasons of any NBA player in history.
David Robinson didnt play his whole career surrounded by scrubs. Dennis Rodman has 5 rings, is a HOF player. Robinson played with him. Sean Elliott was a 18-20 ppg very quick SF who could create his own shot and was all star caliber. Guys like Dale Ellis, Chuck Person, etc could fill it up from the outside. And AJ was an underrated PG who was a very good floor general and dangerous in transition.

You need a back to the basket big in the playoffs to win a le, a Hakeem, Shaq, Kareem, or TD. Those are the guys who create wide open looks for teammates because you have to collapse on them in the paint. DRob and KG are different kind of players, the kind who just dont win les as #1 options.

The next team to win anything in the REGULAR SEASON will be the first.

Do you think anyone will give a damn after this season who had the best record in the NCAA or will people only remember the team who wins the tournament? Playoffs are ALL that matter in the end. Robinson fell short more often than the true all-time NBA greats did in the postseason. He had some really poor playoff outings against Utah and Houston.