I never said current Spurs are one player away. I said we need a great PG, because that's how the league works these days.
You're underselling Keldon and Devin, they can definitely be poor man's Brown-Tatum duo.
We barely have any useful bench players and we have one PG on the roster. Not to mention noone is a finished product except Jakob and two tank commanders.
Also, Pop keeps handing out DNPs to make sure we don't win games.
Jakob is out tonight so AD can win the game by himself if needed.
This team is operating at like 40% of it's potential, assuming noone improves.
Imo, you're mistaken if you think we're tanking again next year. Sure, we might not be that good yet, but we won't tank.
And we'll have like 70 million cap space. Can't draft everyone.
Maybe Johnson and Vassell can be 2nd and 3rd best players on a good team if the best player is a minimum All-NBA one, but to be a championship contender they'd probably have to be 3rd and 4th and that's more about where the bar is than it is about them.
As I said, call it what you want, but they'll almost certainly be a bottom feeder again next season. When you're at the stage the Spurs are, you're reliant on ping pong balls (if you think it's not rigged) to determine your timeline and ceiling.
My opinion is a little different but not to far off from where you're at. Here's where we differ a bit.
On PG's in this draft- I think there are more PG's in this draft that will have careers that will rival Scoot. If we're in the top 6 I believe one of those will be available. Scoot will be better day one but by year 3 I'm not so sure.
On the notable youth- I think KJ and Devin can be the 2nd and 3rd best players on a championship team because the league is shifting away from super teams right now.
On Jones- I agree...backup PG
Sochan- it's hard to say...if he learns to shoot from 3 at an average clip then he's an unquestionable starter and a fairly high level on at that. If his shot doesn't develop then- fringe guy/backup.
Branham/ Wesley- I'm intrigued by Wesley and think Branham can be a solid role player. It's to early to really know, I think there's something there to explore but the odds are against them.
Biggest need is an alpha- I'd prefer him to be a 5 or a 1 but, ultimately we just need an alpha regardless of position. If we can ever get that guy then we can figure out what type of quality depth we can surround him with.
I'm still down for that too.
The consensus is becoming that he’s a bust but GS seems dysfunctional in general this year after Draymond went crazy and punched Poole, so it’s possible Wiseman is still young but in a bad win now position that is undermining his development. He could still turn it around in a good situation. Having said that, his BBIQ seems low, and that’s never a food fit with Pop.
Yeah, throw in Wiseman but still need there unprotected first..
I read one trade proposal with Nets getting Poetl and we getting back Mills, and Edmond Sumner, and there first?
What’s wiseman’s contract situation? Is he up for an extension? Between the two, I’d try to grab Kuminga over Wiseman, but either would be worth the risk
In my opinion, Golden State was always a bad fit for him to begin with.
That would be a big under sell. I dont know if its for sure if they even have their first
The wiseman ship has sailed. If the spurs really want him just wait two years when he becomes a free agent
Wiseman has been horrible defensively. Warriors fans have turned on him. I don’t even have much interest in him anymore tbh.
Its amazing reading other teams boards because they value Jak for a lotto protected first and not much else. Either way I think Jak stays and Richardson will be the only big deal by the deadline.
Yeah, Wiseman is garbage tbh. Would much rather keep Poeltl in that scenario.
If not for Bassey a Richardson for Wiseman deal makes sense for everyone and the salaries already match. But as other have already said the Wiseman ship sailed.
Any actual rumors here or everyone just throwing their feelings at the wall? Only lucrative post was op
That’s seems about right tbh. We overvalue him here and regularly forget he’s an expiring contract.
We’re all speculating on Brian Windhost and Zach Lowes musing from their podcasts, etc. It’s early, the team has clearly hit a wall, and why not?
But I expect World Cup will keep many of us distracted for a while.
We're starting our own rumors....and if we can get timvp in on it we can see them go viral ��
Typically teams wait to the deadline to make moves. But some teams with high expectations are already falling on their face, and so maybe they might be inclined to make a move sooner. It’s a weird season. And the younger upstart teams who are over performing already have talented, but unproven players, so I wonder if they’re gonna want to trade for say Josh Richardson instead of just giving their own younger players the experience. In summary, I guess I’m wondering if there’s gonna be any trades this year for us. Especially with Yak whom they may want to consider keeping if the price is reasonable.
It is a weird season, and I'm picturing more than the usual amount of early trades this year when December 15 hits, which is the date when players who were signed this off season can be moved. I'd be shocked if Golden State doesn't do something to get more vet depth. The Westbrook situation is weird too of course, but I can see teams willing to take him on waiting until the last possible moment, to save on his bloated salary. I have a feeling that because of the better-than-usual parity the league currently has, it's going to be a busier than usual trade season.
Good points. GM job security could be an invisible factor that motivates some teams to make moves as well. And, like you said, with so much parity, a lot of teams can talk themselves into this being their opportunity.
I go back and forth on this. I could just as well see a world with the 7-10 tanked teams in each conference in Feb, say screw it, we’re going to fight to get a ticket to the Wemby sweepstakes.
Lakers are throwing away this season. They won the standoff with LeBron, and i dont see them as desperate to deal Russ as before. The shocking thing is the LeBron seems cool with going out with a whimper— Los Angeles must be just that dope.
"Before the season started, the Lakers offered a lottery-protected first-round pick and Russell Westbrook to the Spurs for Josh Richardson and Doug McDermott, HoopsHype has learned. The Spurs, however, wanted an unprotected first-round pick for taking on Westbrook's salary with the expectation he'd be waived, which the Lakers were unwilling to do, and talks stalled."
NBA Rumors: Top Trade Candidates For Each Team (hoopshype.com)
Uh, no, Lakers have won 5 in a row. With New Orleans able to swap picks, they have ZERO incentive to tank.
LeBron never went to LA for basketball reasons. They were a hole team, and he would only be able to breathe just so much life into them at his age. He was transitioning to his second career: entertainment.
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