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    Simmons made an All NBA teamn2020, so, by your standards, he’s an All NBA player, and a team can be built around him as a #1.
    That's literally the opposite of what I said on multiple counts.

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    Fair enough.

    He is a "#1 guy", just not on a championship contender and he's definitely a "#2 guy" on one.

    Again, not happening nor would I be in favor of it.

    There's a difference between making an All-NBA (or All-Star) team(s) and being an All-NBA (or All-Star) player. Randle is the former, Towns is the latter.
    Simmons made an All NBA teamn2020, so, by your standards, he’s an All NBA player, and a team can be built around him as a #1.
    That's literally the opposite of what I said on multiple counts.
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    Receipts are important.
    Stop trying to act hip, old man.

    Let's try this one last time . . .

    There's a difference between making an All-NBA (or All-Star) team(s) and being an All-NBA (or All-Star) player. Randle is the former, Towns is the latter.

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    Being named to any awards teams can be relatively arbitrary, and is heavily based on individual raw stats. If I was a GM right now, I'd be more interested in acquiring a Lauri Markkanen, Franz Wagner, or even a Trey Murphy lll than Randle, Towns, or Donovan Mitc . Those last three have more personal accolades but are extremely expensive and have built in shortcomings that probably aren't fixable. Allen Iverson was always more popular than Ginobili, but i think Ginobili had a better route to championships because he didn't have the inherent weaknesses of AI.

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    Fair enough.

    He is a "#1 guy", just not on a championship contender and he's definitely a "#2 guy" on one.

    Again, not happening nor would I be in favor of it.

    There's a difference between making an All-NBA (or All-Star) team(s) and being an All-NBA (or All-Star) player. Randle is the former, Towns is the latter.
    That's an opinion, young pup, not a fact, but if you're saying that players selected to either aren't necessarily "all that", you would have a number of people in this thread that would agree with you...regarding Towns.

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    Do not want flat earther Irving
    Yeah, he, Towns, and Harden are the turd trident.

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    That's an opinion, young pup, not a fact, but if you're saying that players selected to either aren't necessarily "all that", you would have a number of people in this thread that would agree with you...regarding Towns.
    I'm not going to waste time prefacing virtually every post with "IMO", because it should go without saying.

    It should be noted though, that it is an opinion borne of a combination of eye test and supported by "catch all" advanced metrics.

    This board is filled with myopic homers, who possess a rudimentary understanding of the game (hence the reliance on counting stats/results without context) and think virtually everyone either "sucks" or isn't good enough to play for the Spurs.

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    Yeah, he, Towns, and Harden are the turd trident.
    Manu stuffing harden at the buzzer of that playoff game left me all toasty

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    I'm not going to waste time prefacing virtually every post with "IMO", because it should go without saying.

    It should be noted though, that it is an opinion borne of a combination of eye test and supported by "catch all" advanced metrics.

    This board is filled with myopic homers, who possess a rudimentary understanding of the game (hence the reliance on counting stats/results without context) and think virtually everyone either "sucks" or isn't good enough to play for the Spurs.
    It takes a certain mental for ude for a player to come here and get ego checked by Pop pretty regularly. KAT strikes me, and a lot of others here, as mentally fragile, and not really up for that.

    Oh, and the only "context" that matters is winning.

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    It takes a certain mental for ude for a player to come here and get ego checked by Pop pretty regularly. KAT strikes me, and a lot of others here, as mentally fragile, and not really up for that.

    Oh, and the only "context" that matters is winning.
    Again, this is all moot.

    At acting as if they all have equal opportunity to win.

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    Early in this thread someone said something about great talent but not sure about his heart and bball IQ. I share the same concerns about KAT I would hate for him to lead this young team to adopting his aura. Here is a serious question what do you think it would take for the Heat to give us Jimmy. He is a warrior with heart but he is older and can get injured. I wouldn't give up all of our future capitol to get him but would he even cost that? I wouldn't mind giving up one of our more to be desired first round picks for Jimmy because he can play that (Timmay, MVParker, Gino) leadership role on the team to be the heart and leader of the squad to teach the younglings how to do it.

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    Manu stuffing harden at the buzzer of that playoff game left me all toasty
    Id argue that series was one of his greatest choke jobs. What he did that game 6 after “the block” was embarrassing. The one time I felt bad for RocketFan.

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    I still think Trae for KAT is the best thing for both teams.

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    Not a fan of KAT. No thanks.

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    So you don't want Jaylen Brown, you don't want KAT, who you do want?

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    This isn't nba forum. There was no rumor, he's never coming, shut up already n close thread

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    He's basically been an All-NBA caliber player from the jump. Simmons was an All-Star caliber player and I don't know which Collins you're referring to, but I'd classify John as a solid-top starter and Zach as a borderline-low end one.
    Neither of them were all star caliber players from the Jump. They had their name forced upon us by the media so both of them made the all star team. Neither though was an all star player. I was mostly talking about Zollins. If he stays healthy he is a solid starter. His biggest issue is staying healthy and hopefully with a year after recovery he has gotten past his getting injured but we will see how it plays out.

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    Neither of them were all star caliber players from the Jump. They had their name forced upon us by the media so both of them made the all star team. Neither though was an all star player. I was mostly talking about Zollins. If he stays healthy he is a solid starter. His biggest issue is staying healthy and hopefully with a year after recovery he has gotten past his getting injured but we will see how it plays out.
    Wrong. By Towns' second season, he was playing at an All-NBA caliber level and Simmons was playing at an All-Star caliber level in his first season (second in the league since he missed his first due to injury).

    Pretending Collins is close to as good as Towns is absurd.

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    I thought we were getting Giannis, guys stfu or we wont get him

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