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Though that pick definitely makes it look more like another tank year for them.
Chicago should absolutely tank (and they probably will in the end), but their FO can’t seem to get no out of their own way. Plus, they’ll have Livine trying to “prove’m wrong”, Giddy playing for a contract, White coming off a breakout year, and Vuc angling for his last big extension/deal.
Itll be hilarious when they make the play-in.
Though that pick definitely makes it look more like another tank year for them.
I disagree on Charlotte. They're a terrible team pretty much all around. Their top star is an often hurt goofball who cannot play disciplined basketball if his life depended on it. I don't believe much in Brandon Miller. Their other good player is a wifebeater and the cupboard is straight up empty after that. They blew this draft by taking Salaun and if Mark Williams never plays much again then things are even worse.
Any one who wants to tank this year needs to do it right out of the gate. Pivoting at the trade deadline might get you into the top 10 pre-lottery positions, or maybe not.
The pick is top 10 protected in 25, switching to top 8 for the next 2 drafts, so this is their best opportunity to protect it. I’d just as soon they keep it this year and convey it in 2026 when we only have one FRP.
Was talking about Charlotte
Actually generally applicable to both, but Charlotte will have an easier time of it, since they seem drawn to out and out tanking, where Chicago has seemed reluctant to.
I think we have nearly a zero chance at the CHA pick. They’ve just made too many boneheaded moves over the last 3-4 years. They’ve have some talent, but even if they go all out, and they won’t, I don’t see a path to the playoffs.
I feel like that CHI FRP is the one in play but you can kiss that CHA goodbye. Picking Tidjane was like the signal that Hornets would fall on their sword and tank in 2025 I think.
CHI will be the TOR of this season imho hugging the line on their protection all season while Spurs fans watch nervously and debate the merits of now vs. later. Great points already about Bulls historically not really tanking and certain players going for contracts and I believe Bulls will inexplicably perform better than expected and possibly even convey in 2025.
SA also needs UTH to be bottom 10 and for LAC to generally win a lot of games as well, to recap what's been mentioned here already. That ATL FRP is gonna be pure gold. Spurs may feel encouraged to play hard and win up if at mid season you can see that Hawks FRP sinking like a stone and it may persuade more aggressive win now moves by the FO, staff and players knowing ATL is in the back pocket and anything else is gravy.
I think Vassells foot injury is going to be a big determinant in where we fall with our first pick. I also think it is going to impact his play as one of the things he needs to improve is taking it to the rim and raising his free throws. We really have no bench so if we have any major injuries on any starters it is going to show on the win/loose %
Vassell is literally supposed to miss about a week of the regular season.
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The spurs are going in to the season, with no Vaseline.
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This first week happens to be against a bunch of WC contenders
I don't think that Charlotte is that bad if Ball can stay healthy.
He can’t and they’ve shown an inordinate interest in tanking when it’s warranted, and it certainly is this year.
Game Theory Podcast with Sam Vecenie dropped their Pre-Season 2025 Mock Draft (which is more of a big board than a mock at this point), for all us sickos out there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j98_cXp7dMs
Not a whole lot of surprises from what most big boards look like right now in the top 5, but some new names beyond that and there is some interesting analysis in the 2-hour long pod.
I like to post these for later reference since in about 6 months this will be laughable (they always are).
1. Flagg
2. Bailey
3. Harper
4. Edgecomb
5. Traore
6. Maluach
7. Ben Saraf
8. Drake Powell
9. Kasparas Jakucionis
10. McNeeley
11.Kon Knueppel
12. Demin
13. Newell
14. Hugo
15. Collin-Murray-Boyles
16. Dink Pate
17. Donnie Freeman
18. KJ Evans
19. Jalil Bethea
20. Tre Johnson
21. Alex Karaban
22. Hansen Yang
23. Rocco Zikarsky
24. Hunter Sallis
25. Alex Toohey
26. Saint Thomas (leader in the clubhouse for best name this year)
27. Motiejus Krivas
28. Rasheer Fleming
29. Ian Jackson
30. Noa Essengue
The Spurs must draft this being..................
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Perfect draft for me would be: any of the top 5 from ATL's pick... McNeeley with our pick... and Egor Demin with either CHI or CHA's pick (hopefully).
I believe Vecenie is calling this an average draft at this point, saying it's about 7 deep and then not great.
Obviously can change. We haven't seen games and play yet.
He’s literally the only one.
Yeah, everyone else is spitting the same tired hype.
I'm not saying up or down, but it's clear this draft is overhyped at the moment. Even Givony is saying the good player in Duke scrimmages isn't any of the super hyped ones.
Everyone would obviously like to draft another all-star in 2025 draft, but since Castle looks like the real deal, I'd be happy with a 6'8-6'10 shooter who isn't a negative on defense.
We'll probably be able to trade up to top5, even top3 if there's a player that PATFO sees as a must get, just find the right wing and get him.
Scrimmages really don’t mean much. That’s like caring that Kai Jones dunked on Victor in summer league.
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