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The Writer can never discuss anything right.
Always has to be a defensive prick.
No way the Marlins move here.
No way they go for playing at Wolff field or wahtever for a year.
The Spurs are all thatll be here.
Get used to it.
MB is white?We understand why you're the way you are.
The Writer can never discuss anything right.
Always has to be a defensive prick.
No way the Marlins move here.
No way they go for playing at Wolff field or wahtever for a year.
The Spurs are all thatll be here.
Get used to it.
i'm for it.
A master plan is not a stadium project. There is a big difference between a master plan and an actual project. A master plan is just a study for how to use land including a feasibility study.It may also include conceptual or sketch ideas like the HollyHills vision. Also when a portion of a master plan is built - it doesn't mean the same architects will design it.
HollyHills is hired by no one. They are salesmen trying to pitch something. If you want a better idea of what they really are read Buck Harvey's column in today's paper.
Should I just quit than?
They can't leave Miami until 2008 at the earliest.No way they go for playing at Wolff field or wahtever for a year.
If currect city and county leaders had the same defeatist mentality as you, that might always be true.The Spurs are all thatll be here.
Get used to it.
Luckly they don't quit after a couple of losses.
I really don't feel like re-reading someone's cynical POV.HollyHills is hired by no one. They are salesmen trying to pitch something. If you want a better idea of what they really are read Buck Harvey's column in today's paper.
You might wanna read this
Nothing set in concrete there. Just a "hope" to make their project a reality.
The more I think of it, the more I have doubts about the HollyHills project. They can hire anyone they like, they appear to have a good pitch man but this project will probably go down the crapper due to finances. I'm thinking they'll end up building a subdivision and a strip mall cause it will be all they can afford.
Updated: Jan. 10, 2006, 12:25 AM ET
Mayor: Most Portlanders don't care about getting team
Associated Press
PORTLAND, Ore. -- Mayor Tom Potter said Monday he has a "very strong sense" that most Portlanders don't care about landing a major league baseball team and reiterated his position that the city will not help finance a ballpark for the Florida Marlins.
Potter spoke after meeting with Marlins president David Samson and other team officials, who are touring potential new homes for the franchise.
"My concern is that Portland is facing a crisis is education," Potter said. "That's my top priority, to find funding for that. And I expressed that today."
Samson said a "public-private" partnership is a must because there's no way the Marlins would pay for an entire stadium project.
"Governments do make decisions when they attract businesses to the community," Samson said. "Baseball is not the only industry, by any stretch, to ask for government help when deciding where to have its corporate headquarters."
In 2003, Oregon legislators approved a stadium plan that would allow the income taxes from players and other team personnel to be diverted to a fund to pay off bonds used to build the stadium.
"What the state does is its own business," Potter said.
Samson compared Monday's meeting to a first date and said it was too soon to consider Potter's position a potential obstacle.
"Today it was just about meeting the mayor and getting to know him, and that's what I focused on," he said. "I don't really focus too much on public comments -- positive or negative -- because it's too premature."
Portland is the second stop on Samson's tour of potential sites, following San Antonio.
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me too
Pony up $300M for a stadium and another $300M for the team and your dream can come true.
ok, ill start by holding a carwash at my house, and then setup a lemonade stand
I absolutely love baseball. I would love for SA to have a team. That being said, however I don't think this is a baseball type of town. Once the initial novelty of having a second pro team wears off, I wonder how many people would be out at the ballpark, especially day games in August.
Think about it- the Spurs don't sell out every game (even though they come close). They play 1-3 times a week at home. Imagine now playing a 10-game stretch at home for baseball. One game each day for 10 days, at a ballpark that I would assume would seat roughly 3x the 18k seats of the spurs arena. I am just not sure there is enough interest in baseball in SA to make it work. I would hate for them to relocate here, then relocate again due to lack of attendance. Oh, and the fire sale the Marlins seem to be having this offseason does not bode well for them, either.
That being said, my ass would be out there early and often.
I don't think attendance would be a real issue, Mel. Baseball is more affordable for families. Most teams don't sell out every game. And even the Cubs or Red Sox have few people in the stands at a noon game on Tuesday. I think average attendance is something like 20,000 per game. And if your ass is out there and my ass is out there with all the others it should be fine.
BTW, last time the marlins had a fire sale it led them back to winning another World Series.
I actually thought about that, Hector. It might mean good things. I baseball is much more affordable than a Spurs game, but there are also twice as many home games, so I guess that is my concern. I would hate for us as a city to have egg on our faces because we couldnt bring up the numbers.
I also wonder if those who still think we could get an nfl team would reject this. SA might be able to support two pro teams, but three is a stretch, to put it mildly. OH well, its all speculation anyhow for now...
Funding for a stadium is already in place.
Might wanna rethink that. They've sold out every game so far this season.Think about it- the Spurs don't sell out every game (even though they come close).
Teams like the Cubs and Red Sox draw 3 million fans a year. Teams like the Pirates and Royals draw 20,000 a game.I don't think attendance would be a real issue, Mel. Baseball is more affordable for families. Most teams don't sell out every game. And even the Cubs or Red Sox have few people in the stands at a noon game on Tuesday. I think average attendance is something like 20,000 per game. And if your ass is out there and my ass is out there with all the others it should be fine.
BTW, last time the marlins had a fire sale it led them back to winning another World Series.
YOU might want to re-read what I said. I said they don't sell out every game, I didn't say THIS SEASON. I been to plenty of home games on a Monday or Tuesday vs. lowly teams like the Hawks where they were short of a sellout. Now imagine the Marlins playing not one but 3-4 home games IN A ROW vs. a crappy team like the Padres, with 3x as many seats to sell. That's the point I was trying to make.
Also, its easy to point out a team selling out all their home games when they just came off a championship season. The Marlins are in rebuilding mode. Big difference.
we voted on that when?Funding for a stadium is already in place.
It won't be like SA would be the ONLY place with THAT problem. The average MLB game averages about 26,000 or 27,000 anyway.
They have so far this season.
You said it as if that's the case this season. It's not. Rephrase what you write.I didn't say THIS SEASON.
Oh Texan... I guess you got bored at the Marlins board.
Funny how I got a PM from a guy who said you're one of the biggest "pricks" over there.
The funding is in place, that is a true fact, the activation of said funding has yet to be happen, that will take a vote.
I don't need to rephrase anything. YOU are the only one who didn't get my point. I stated they didn't sell out every game, period. I gave no parameters as to time. Nowhere did I say "this season". You added that to suit your agenda.
As for the person who said that every team has that problem, you are mostly right. Other than NY or Boston or rabid baseball towns like that, the attendance is not great. I guess my worry is that SA may go even lower than that if the Marlins (or whatever team) really suck at first.
If it was football, I think peeps would go no matter what, as this is football-hungry Texas. But baseball, I am not so sure. But I would love for it to work out.
Then neither has any team in any league in the history of american sports. So what's the purpose of even bringing it up? To suit your flawed agenda.
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