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    Expectations should be that we have a star in Castle tbh. What he's doing right now - as a 19 year old rookie - breaking people down and scoring with strength is almost unheard of. Rookies don't come into the league at 19 and throw their bodies around like this at the guard position.

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    Butler was my initial comp but Castle plays smaller than him and spends less time doing post ups. I think shades of Wade and Rose describes Castle best.
    I actually hope that the Spurs explore Castle as a post up option down the road (in a couple years), could be a devastating option if teams put a small in him.

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    Sop re Kawhi was a rebound or made free throw away from the le... with no one else near the stratosphere of a Wemby type player.

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    Sop re Kawhi was a rebound or made free throw away from the le... with no one else near the stratosphere of a Wemby type player.
    you had the big 3 still playing at a high level. duncan obviously wasnt what he once was, but he was all-nba first team and 7th in MVP voting in 2013. parker was 2nd team and came 6th in MVP voting.

    manu was still very good even if not the explosive player he used to be (although in 2013 he was pretty awful in some of the games in that series, especially game 4 iirc, before he started and was the hero in game 5)

    then you had high end role players in tiago spliiter, danny green, boris diaw, and even gary neal when he was still good. that was also more or less peak pop

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    Wemby, Castle, Fox. We need to find the 4th star, preferably a forward

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    Wemby, Castle, Fox. We need to find the 4th star, preferably a forward
    We really don't.
    We need to find a great coach that will find optimal roles for everyone.

    Fox/Castle/Wemby with two high end 3-D players and actual coaching would be enough for 50 wins, tbh.

    Don't get me wrong, if we can get a star without ruining our cap situation or giving up Castle, go for it, but I don't think it's needed considering how current CBA works and that it wouldn't be sustainable when Wemby's extension kicks in.
    That's why I'd be fine with KD for a couple of years until Wemby's extension.

    But coaching is by far the biggest need.
    I'd rather have an elite coach and a couple of good 3-D wings than someone average and KD.

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    Wemby, Castle, Fox. We need to find the 4th star, preferably a forward
    Devin ain't it

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    We really don't.
    We need to find a great coach that will find optimal roles for everyone.

    Fox/Castle/Wemby with two high end 3-D players and actual coaching would be enough for 50 wins, tbh.

    Don't get me wrong, if we can get a star without ruining our cap situation or giving up Castle, go for it, but I don't think it's needed considering how current CBA works and that it wouldn't be sustainable when Wemby's extension kicks in.
    That's why I'd be fine with KD for a couple of years until Wemby's extension.

    But coaching is by far the biggest need.
    I'd rather have an elite coach and a couple of good 3-D wings than someone average and KD.
    Coach is by far the biggest need. But if we get just one of those ATL picks to hit and draft another All-Star caliber guy, it‘s over for the league. Unless our coach is Mitch Johnson

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    We really don't.
    We need to find a great coach that will find optimal roles for everyone.

    Fox/Castle/Wemby with two high end 3-D players and actual coaching would be enough for 50 wins, tbh.

    Don't get me wrong, if we can get a star without ruining our cap situation or giving up Castle, go for it, but I don't think it's needed considering how current CBA works and that it wouldn't be sustainable when Wemby's extension kicks in.
    That's why I'd be fine with KD for a couple of years until Wemby's extension.

    But coaching is by far the biggest need.
    I'd rather have an elite coach and a couple of good 3-D wings than someone average and KD.
    Completely agree.

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    We really don't.
    We need to find a great coach that will find optimal roles for everyone.

    Fox/Castle/Wemby with two high end 3-D players and actual coaching would be enough for 50 wins, tbh.

    Don't get me wrong, if we can get a star without ruining our cap situation or giving up Castle, go for it, but I don't think it's needed considering how current CBA works and that it wouldn't be sustainable when Wemby's extension and Fox’s extension kicks in.
    That's why I'd be fine with KD for a couple of years until Wemby's extension.

    But coaching is by far the biggest need.
    I'd rather have an elite coach and a couple of good 3-D wings than someone average and KD.
    Don’t forget the other one.

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    Don’t forget the other one.
    He's already on a max deal. Yeah, it's going to go from 25% to 30%, but still not a major change.
    It's just my personal opinion, but I never liked top heavy teams with no money left over for role players and the bench.

    Unless we draft one, the only younger potential star I'd trade a lot of assets for is Murphy because of his amazing contract.
    But all that is in distant future and irrelevant until we figure out who's going to coach this team next season.

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    He's already on a max deal. Yeah, it's going to go from 25% to 30%, but still not a major change.
    It's just my personal opinion, but I never liked top heavy teams with no money left over for role players and the bench.

    Unless we draft one, the only younger potential star I'd trade a lot of assets for is Murphy because of his amazing contract.
    But all that is in distant future and irrelevant until we figure out who's going to coach this team next season.
    It’s 25% of a very old (2020) cap to 30% of a newer and higher cap. Even without the possibility of a SuperMax, it will average $57M/yr.

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    It’s 25% of a very old (2020) cap to 30% of a newer and higher cap. Even without the possibility of a SuperMax, it will average $57M/yr.
    The number is irrelevant, of course it will be higher when the cap is projected to be at 170-187-207-226-249 million in those years.
    Right now it's at 24% even with the CBA change, percentages are the only thing that matters.

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    Just noodling around with a csv I pulled down from the reference of Castle's season stats and picking a few cherries.

    In 27 games Castle has played under 27 minutes, he is 14/72 (19%). His last nine games are included in this figure.
    In 23 games Castle has played over 27 minutes, he is 41/119 (34.5%)

    I suck at Excel, so these numbers might be in error, but eyeballs tend to agree.

    My suggestion: play Castle more - give Stphon the damn ball.

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    Don’t forget the other one.
    I’d have to look at the years, but wouldn’t Castles extension not kick in until Fox’s next deal is up? I think the timing might actually work out well in the event Castle blows up. Most of Fox’s next deal will have run by the time Wembys starts as well, no?

    I don’t see Fox getting two big deals after the current one, tbh.

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    I am not going to go as far to predict it, but I would not be surprised if Fox gives SA some kind of slight discount the way Brunson did. Klutch has wanted to pair one of their guys with Wemby, and it wouldn't shock me if part of the deal before the trade was the Spurs talking to Rich Paul and saying we're in, but not at a full max. Again... not predicting it, but also wouldn't rule it out.

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    Fox could be a good candidate for a declining dollar deal like Vassell.

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