They got all the shooting they need. Replace Niang`s/Okoro 20 minutes with Sochan`s 25 minutes - he defends best opponent player, can play 3-4 position in any configuration, with all those shooters and good ball handlers his cutting to basket would be lethal.
They dont need to extend him at all, they would have two year championship window and deal with salaries after those.
Been thinking about it and you might be right, Cleveland could make sense.vNot sure what they could offer that interest PATFO tho (maybe a 20132 20133 pick?).
At the end of the day I'm pretty sure PATFO's too stubborn to admit being wrong and will extend him.
just gonna leave this here, for all the idiots who think Sochan is bad at basketball
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/ro...dir=D&sort=PPP
Eh, this site is worse than r/Conservative in terms of circlejerk group think.
You asked, where he fits, not if someone would make this trade. I am standing, that Spurs dont have to trade Sochan at all, and he seems like type of a guy, who can sign team friendly deal. And that team friendly deal would still be 100 mil $ in nowadays NBA
My guy, Trey Murphy III, tbh
Most of these guys are pretty low-frequency rollers and their stats needs to be thrown out the window... but I'd like to see Jeremy get more opportunities as the roll man based on this.
Sochan is one of the better roll finishers in the league, but despite what pAuletta14 says, sochan is actually a decent passer when his pick and roll partner is wemby. The two has been doing relatively well early in the season and that pick and roll, or sometimes off ball screening, was working at high efficiencies. Sochan still can’t shoot but if you are putting in a decent percentage the opposition still has to guard you, the league isn’t all 3s, despite popular belief, it’s actually all 3s and layups and sochan got good at it. He is shooting something like 70% on layups and that’s equivalent to shooting 47% from 3, with better chances of offensive rebounding and less chances of long rebounds for the opposition to run fast breaks. Obviously those shots are harder to come by but with wemby drawing all the attention sochans cutting really pays off.
Anyways, point for me is, sochan is actually a decent player who is someone with an uncommon skill set. I would love to keep someone like sochan and he is unorthodoxed but he requires an actual game plan to help him be a threat, right now there isn’t one.
The Spurs should game plan for Sochan bc he's "an unconventional player" ...
Maybe the Spurs should game plan for Champ as well bc he's so unconventional being able to only shoot and nothing else or for Tre so he's not exposed too much...
Spurs "DEI" Basketball !!!
Whatever educated (usually non-educated) view you offer regarding basketball you negate with your continued political rhetoric. You are the liberal version of the posters you despise.
The Spurs having.a game plan so that Sochan can be a threat is different from the Spurs game planning for Sochan. You missed the nuances in that phrase, just like when poster after poster are putting you on ignore, there is a nuance to it because what they are saying is that you are an insufferable idiot who doesn't add anything in your points.The Spurs should game plan for Sochan bc he's "an unconventional player" ...
Maybe the Spurs should game plan for Champ as well bc he's so unconventional being able to only shoot and nothing else or for Tre so he's not exposed too much...
Spurs "DEI" Basketball !!!
What's up with your "Spurs needs to keep Tre Jones, he makes Wemby better"?
You keep having the worst takes seasons after seasons
So as usual, got your ass handed back to you on a platter and all you can do is change to another subject and make up entirely. No surprises there.What's up with your "Spurs needs to keep Tre Jones, he makes Wemby better"?
You keep having the worst takes seasons after seasons
But of course, Tre did pair well with wemby last year because he was the only PG on the team, the numbers bear it out, but of course expecting you to actually understand numbers is probably too much.
This year, Tre was clearly a positive when he was on the court. His scoring dropped further off the cliff but when available he has been a net positive. The numbers showed as much and you are free to look it up. But of course you’d rather hold your terrible takes to the grave and change to another subject.
I'm not gonna get into another back and forth with u karen, I know u get high off of it and you keep embarrasing yourself with the worst takes and still hasn't learned to understand stats I'm sure.
Have a great life and don't forget your meds
Oh, what is this? Nothing to back up anything you randomly threw out and just sayingI'm not gonna get into another back and forth with u karen, I know u get high off of it and you keep embarrasing yourself with the worst takes and still hasn't learned to understand stats I'm sure.
Have a great life and don't forget your medsyour takes are bad
For someone who got named by other posters as karen14 due to your hilariously bad and misuse of the term, I do have to commend you of the obliviousness of your own abject stupidity. Your level of moronic behaving is almost charming if your personality isn’t so grating.
Oh, what is this? Nothing to back up anything you randomly threw out and just saying
For someone who got named by other posters as karen14 due to your hilariously bad and misuse of the term, I do have to commend you of the obliviousness of your own abject stupidity. Your level of moronic behaving is almost charming if your personality isn’t so grating.
STFU Karen
Jones and Sochan are a couple of Make-A-Wish Kids. Not worth arguing over. They both should be gone soon rather than later.
Always been a fan of Sochan next to Wemby for smaller lineups. I think Wemby definitely benefits having a bigger guy next to him for the big center matches of the league, but those are so few tbh.
Sochan plays great defense, and my biggest concern with him was his rebounding, not his 3 pt shot. I think he'll be fine with that in a couple years. Nothing special but good enough to warrant the court time. His rebounding took a huge leap this year. He likes to bang down low and pickup loose items. That's perfect for Wemby who likes to play outside the paint.
When wemby decides to attach inside, him and Sochan are actively looking for one another and sochan has the awareness and above average finishing ability to gather in Wembys unorthodox passing.
Sochan is still a kid who didn't play a lot of organized ball before his career. He's doing great for the spurs and compliments Wemby well.
the thing i noticed about Sochan is that he is just a little shorter and doesn't have the same vertical ability as Aaron Gordon, who is sometimes listed as his archetype. I know Gordon is one of the best athletes at his size in the league (maybe league history) so its not realistic to expect Sochan to do the same things.
But Sochan's lack of verticality is always going to be a problem if you want him playing that role. So many times he misses bunnies or can't get quite high enough to grab a rebound or dunk.
i don't think he will ever be a good enough shooter to be a starter on a le team. He also makes tons of mistakes that absolutely kill our momentum. I would get rid of him but obviously the coaches/front office see things differently. Quietly hoping he's in the Fox deal.
For a 9th pick, he is trending to be one of the most underwhelming draft selections in Spurs history. What does this guy even do good at a consistent level on the basketball court?
Seriously, i am out on him even being like 6th-7th man in the future. Too many flaws coupled with a dismal motor & basketball IQ
Sochan relies on his natural gifts. He does the same stuff he did at Baylor. He hasn't improved at all.
My guess is the reason Scott Drew didn't start him is because he's lazy.
Sochan gets the ball right next to the basket, dribbles it a time or two, then runs away. He's still doing the exact same as day 1 of the Wemby era.
No shot. No turn around J that we thought he was practicing. No hookshot. No passing ability in any amount of traffic. He's a good on the ball defender, but doesn't generate any steals or blocks from his activity.
Overall, a wastoid, long story short.
Expecting a big payday from the Spurs brass since people like his hair.
Guy is hurting is value..Gotta let the market decide his contract.Not sure anubody gonna offer him big money.Hope we
aint stupid to do it.
And supposedly PATFO is high on keeping him and Vassell as part of the core. The sooner these liabilities are both gone, the better.
Someone reminded recently on a thread the definition of insanity.
Thinking Sochan will change who he is, is a nice instance.
More than him, it's PATFO's talent detection and projection that are worrisome. It's his 3rd year and they still think he's "him"
We deserve them considering how the majority of Spurs fans are enamored by Jeremy smh
Yeah..Also, we are sometimes hard on the guy, but Keldon Johnson outperformed the expectations of his draft position (29) more than Vassell (11)/Sochan (9) by a significant margin. That's to put the disappointment in perspective.
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