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    Pennsylvania set the trend in blood.
    your own shot him

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    if he was shot

    was the medical report ever released?

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    if he was shot

    was the medical report ever released?
    HIPPA, that's why.

    You have a bug up your ass, on spec.

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    HIPPA, that's why.

    You have a bug up your ass, on spec.
    anything not to discuss the topic

    why would Trump want to keep it a secret?

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    anything not to discuss the topic

    why would Trump want to keep it a secret?
    So, what is your reasoning as to why he didn't release it?

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    So, what is your reasoning as to why he didn't release it?
    if Trump is telling the truth, I have no earthly idea

    modesty?

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    Unless 2nd amendment

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    Unless 2nd amendment
    legally things seem to be jamming up for Trumplandia, perhaps it's too soon to completely write off the old USA

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    but the administrative coup is devastating

    El0n hacked the US system of payment, now Trump is using control of US payments to directly coerce US states, ins utions and legislators

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    legally things seem to be jamming up for Trumplandia, perhaps it's too soon to completely write off the old USA
    Only nigh on 4 years left, stink-pot.

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    In for penny.
    In for pound.

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    "we'll leave out identifiers so y'all can't check our work and make us look bad"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/13/u...ts-claims.html

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    wildly overstated "savings"

    Elon Musk claims that the U.S. DOGE Service (DOGE) — a small group of Musk associates embedded in virtually every department of the federal government — have already saved taxpayers over $100 billion. In an appearance on Fox Business this week, Musk claimed he was saving $4 billion per day and was on track to cut $1 trillion from the federal budget.

    Most of these purported “savings,” however, are not backed up with any details or do entation. In other cases, DOGE has provided do entation, but the do ents reveal that DOGE has grossly overstated the potential savings to taxpayers.

    That is why, today, we are launching theMusk Watch DOGE Tracker. The Musk Watch DOGE Tracker allows anyone to easily cut through the spin about DOGE and see how much savings can be verified. It also allows the public to go deeper and see what is being cut and who is being impacted. It will be updated weekly.

    Verifiable Canceled Funding ($8.6 billion)
    This includes the amount of savings that can be verified based on the information provided by DOGE. Most Verifiable Canceled Funding comes from canceled contracts. But Musk Watch has determined the actual potential savings, rather than the inflated values provided by DOGE.

    Here is how it works. For each contract, there are three key figures: the “Obligated Amount,” the “Current Award Amount,” and the “Potential Award Amount.” The Obligated Amount is the amount the agency has obligated itself to spend. DOGE calculates the savings by taking the “Potential Award Amount” and subtracting the “Obligated Amount.” The “Potential Award Amount” is the value of the contract if all options, renewals, extensions, and expansions of the contract are exercised.

    “The ‘Current Award Amount’ is a better way of determining what the government has committed to a contract,” Jacob Leibenluft, the former Executive Associate Director of the Office of Management and Budget told Musk Watch. By using “Potential Award Amount” instead, Leibenluft explained, DOGE is taking credit for saving money that the government was not required to spend and might never have been spent under any administration.

    Musk Watch calculates the savings by taking the “Current Award Amount,” and subtracting the “Obligated Amount.” This results in a significantly lower estimation of savings.

    The Musk Watch DOGE Tracker also includes real estate savings in this category since DOGE does provide specific addresses, even though the real estate savings are also somewhat inflated. A Washington Post analysis found that many of the savings “were calculated by assuming that those leases would otherwise have continued for another five years” even though many were scheduled to expire within the next two years.

    The total Verifiable Canceled Funding, as calculated by the Musk Watch DOGE Tracker, is currently $8.6 billion. This means the top line claim of savings by DOGE, $105 billion, overstates the verified savings by 92%.
    https://doge.muskwatch.com

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    Mike Shedlock supported Trump for president last year

    105 is an overstatement by 1,121 percent
    Even the Verifiable Canceled Funding as determined by the Musk Watch DOGE Tracker may still overstate the real savings to taxpayers.

    First, since there is a delay in federal contract databases, we have to assume that all the contracts that DOGE says it canceled are actually canceled. But more than 1000 contracts that have appeared on the DOGE.gov website at one point were subsequently removed. So some of the current contracts that DOGE says it has canceled may not actually be canceled.

    Second, canceling a contract that is paid for by funds appropriated by Congress does not automatically decrease the budget. Savings claimed by DOGE for canceled contracts may be “illusory” because the agency is still “required to spend the money” appropriated by Congress for the same statutorily authorized purpose.
    https://mishtalk.com/economics/the-d...-of-the-claim/

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    Don’t count broken eggs before the Senate and House agree to break them. And don’t chalk up Musk’s claims without understanding how exaggerated they are.

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    Mike Shedlock supported Trump for president last year



    https://mishtalk.com/economics/the-d...-of-the-claim/
    Mish still backs him, I think

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    still no accounting of what happened to or what's going to happen to all the $$$ that got impounded, I've seen zero reporting on that

    that $$$ (i.e., funds appropriated by law) is now like a big executive branch slush fund for El0n/Trump to dole out to followers and deny to opponents

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    Only nigh on 4 years left, stink-pot.
    y'all acted like Obama was about to do something like this, but he never did

    not even close

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    Musk Watch

    Judd Legum got taken to the woodshed and his entire site is based off of misinterpreting "potential"

    Thread here



    and here


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    Musk Watch

    Judd Legum got taken to the woodshed and his entire site is based off of misinterpreting "potential"

    Thread here



    and here

    Do you believe Musk's numbers are accurate?

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    Musk Watch

    Judd Legum got taken to the woodshed and his entire site is based off of misinterpreting "potential"

    Thread here



    and here



    this lady just smacking Judd around now for fun

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    Do you believe Musk's numbers are accurate?
    More accurate than Judd's, yes.

    Do you think Judd had an entire website built with a fundamental misunderstanding of the meaning of Potential Award Value? yes or no.

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