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Holding the franchise hostage long past his usefulness stage.
Helicopter crash?Pop pulling a Kobe would be legit hilarious tbh
Holding the franchise hostage long past his usefulness stage.
He's been doing it 5+ years now tbh.
Good point tbh
It would bring some closure to him and the fans to let him coach that final game of the regular season.
he‘s been pulling a Kobe holding the franchise hostage while missing the playoffs 6 years straight. That‘s exactly what Kobe did.Pop pulling a Kobe would be legit hilarious tbh
Hearing "long-term future" for a 76 year old coach who has been pretty ty for nearly 20 years fills me with ing dread for the future of the franchise. Just get ready for Wemby and Castle in LA.
I thought he hasn't been great for a while now, but do you really think he's sucked for that long?
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In the last 20 years, he’s coached SA to 3 of their 5 les.
Two words, Beautiful Game.
No other coach would I think could’ve totally re-invented the Spurs offense to fit its aging personnel and get to the Finals twice, sending prime Banana Boat in the process.
Pop's only been bad for 6 or 7 years as far as I'm concerned. That's when he transitioned somehow to the D2 college coach mindset of building quality men instead of winning basketball games.
It's a noble purpose but more appropriate for a life coach or consultant than an NBA basketball coach. It's time for this franchise to operate with a sense of urgency again.
He cost the Spurs a threepeat by benching the centers in 2006 against Dallas. He didn't play Tiago Splitter when the Spurs got bounced by an 8 seed in the first round. Yeah. He's ing awful. He always has been.
That's a team full of veterans playing on their own.
Pop took them to dinner every week.
The 06 criticism is fair but Richard Jefferson was an anchor around the team's neck in 2011 and probably deserves most of the blame for that season.
On the whole he's probably cost them more series than he won.
He was well on his way to losing 03 by being destroyed in the coaching matchup by Nellie, Spurs probably don't win that series without Manu injuring Dirk on accident, and even then he managed to almost lose
He cost them in 08 when he benched Bowen in the 3rd for picking up a third foul while locking Kobe down tight. Series was blown right there in game 1.
Similar in the last series against Denver. Game 2 up 18 in the first half, puts in the suicide squad to lose the lead. Gets an 18 point lead in the second half, makes no adjustments at all, rolls out the suicide squad, they lose the lead, the game, and the series because of it. If they had secured a 2-0 lead going home, even Pop would have had a hard time losing.
Stubbornness in 16 cost them when it was West and Diaw set in stone, never tried going small with Kawhi.
If I wanted to think about 12 and 13 I'm sure some unpleasant memories of his mistakes would come up but I don't like to think about those. Should have been a 3-peat there too arguably.
Pop straight up cost us a le in 2006. I was here in 2006, saying as much as a teenager. It was that obvious. We'd have probably lost against them in 2007 as well if not for Avery pulling a similar tactic causing them to be massacred by GS.
He also was at the helm of the absolutely historic collapse in 2004 that Tim Duncan's miracle shot almost saved. The Lakers weren't even that good, Shaq-Kobe feud was at its all-time high, and Malone was clearly injured -- then Detroit skull ed them. Put 2012 in that bucket, too. There's no way we should have been backdoor swept by a bunch of guys barely out of their teens, talent notwithstanding.
2013 and Timmy being on the bench was another travesty.
As for 08, Pop wasn't exactly great but Manu was clearly injured and that's really what cost us the series.
I also remember him not playing George Hill at all until we were about to be swept, despite Hill having an objectively good rookie season. It reminds me of the Castle situation a bit -- only we suck now, so at least we'll be spared him being benched for Sochan and friends. It's clear the Pop system has a glaring weakness for developing/playing backup guards, especially point guards. It also falls in love with Nellie-ball without any clear indication they understand why Nellie-ball can sometimes work, IE playing fast paced, scoring in bunches, spreading the floor with 4 or 5 shooters and multiple guys who can pass and dribble.
Easy to say when the league is full of veterans who can’t even sniff the Finals. Dude give credit where it’s due. Spurs got blindsided by Kawhi and ever since they’ve been patching holes, until finally decided to tank for the Wemby sweepstakes. It’s not easy to right a ship. It takes calculated moves or it would belly-up or break the boat. I agree the last 5 years of inept drafting didn’t help. But it landed us Wemby so it’s forgivable.
You’re part of the minority who thinks Pop is bad. But of course a prophet is not honored in his hometown.
Huh? Nelson was stubbornly putting Dirk on Tim and Tim was skull ing him. Dallas played better once Dirk got hurt because it forced Nelson to put Najera on Tim and not just cede the post all night.
Yeah 06 was ridiculous the way he benched Nazr after hitting that three against Sacramento, and that made the Dallas series a nightmare with how terrible the defensive rebounding was. Disagree on 04, that series went to once Turkoglu couldn't hit a wide open three and the Lakers stopped guarding him. Horry was choking like too so giving him Hedo's minutes wasn't going to solve anything either. 2012 the Spurs barely eeked out those first two wins, that was a terrible matchup plus the refs ed the Spurs over in Game 6 (e.g. the tech on Jack for staring down Mo Cheeks after hitting a three yet not a word when Cheeks was there yelling in his ear while he was shooting). Lots of to blame Pop for, like 06, like Bonner+Blair instead of Splitter, never playing Murray+White together, and especially going soft after Aldridge asked for a trade. That last thing basically ended Pop's coaching career IMO, and he has been a scrub level coach since. But 02-14 dude was elite, except for 06. Also thought George Hill started that entire Phoenix series in 2010.
EDIT: Looked it up, and Hill started Games 1 & 2 of that series.
All that still makes me mad thinking about it. That Stephen Jackson tech was what told me that series was rigged (Their guys on the bench were screaming and shouting who knows what at him, and then he gets a tech for staring back after nailing the 3. What a ing joke). They wanted OKC in the finals against the Heat for rating. Too bad OKC got smashed because they never should have been there in the first place.
I guess I don't count all the years like Obstructed_View is doing, but 2006 is the first instance that Pop started losing me. Up until then, I thought he was brilliant. 2004 definitely wasn't his fault that Hedo shrived up, Robert Horry also missed a wide open 3 badly and just didn't play well in general. TP couldn't make his outside shots either. The Lakers almost gave up and their strategy was to leave the shooters open. Spurs easily could have won that series, but as it stands, they are still owed a game 7 IMO after that game 5 shot. I know one of the guys here told me recently that he broke it down and that the shot did count and that the clock should have had a touch more time on it after TD's shot went in, but I still disagree. Whatever time was left, that's all you had to go off of. The NBA wouldn't have changed the rules the following season saying you can't catch and shoot in 0.4 seconds unless it's a tip-in or something. That says all you need to know about the legitimacy of that shot. I just tried doing a search, but couldn't find all the rules? Are they listed somewhere for each amount of time (0.1, 0.2, 0.3 etc.) and what you can and can't do with those amounts of time left?
What are your all thoughts on Sam Cassell as head coach?
I‘m super hyped if we get a new coach. As long as it’s not one who was mentored by Pop.
So the architect of The Beautiful Game has a team that -for the last several years- can't shoot, can't set screens, can't block out, can't get back on defense and can't defend.
Mmkay.
We need new blood
Hurley must be it
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