Possible Ron Artest Trades

[donkey hote]

The Warriors with Artest would be kind of scary. That would be a of an upgrade for them. If he goes to Oakland like the press over there seems to want, that would be a tough team to face in the first round. Of course, that's what everyone said about Denver last year.

If we could get Nazr and Beno for Artest, it would be awfully tempting to pull the trigger on that deal. Same with Oberto and Barry. If I were playing NBA Live I would do that anyway. In the real world, we'd be at the very least dumping two guys that have done jack for us this year, and mostly keeping Ron Artest *out* of other people's hands. There's always the slim chance he might work here, with some discipline and guidance.

Most likely though, I think Cleveland and Houston are two teams that are most desparate to gamble. LeBron would be a good influence and leader for Ron of the sort that Jermaine O'Neal was not; obviously Danny Ferry would never put up with that, but that's just my idea. Also I look at Houston as a team that might feel the pressure to upgrade a few of their spare parts. Bob Sura, Jon Barry, and Juwan Howard would be made completely obsolete by Ron Artest and Luther Head rotating in next to McGrady.

Sounds like Golden State or Sacramento to me right now

[baseline bum]

How much better can the Spurs roster be? When I look at it I cannot see one legit weakness. There is absolutely no reason to make any kind of trade with this team we have unless someone goes down for the season. They have 3 starting-quality centers in Duncan, Nesterovic, and Mohammed, two fearless point-guards in Parker and Van Exel, 2 outstanding shooters in Barry and Finley, an Artest-like jack-of-all-trades pressure performer in Ginobili, lockdown man-defenders in Bowen and Duncan, and one of the top-10 clutch players in NBA history in Horry. There is no reason to do anything to this team.

[Spurs Biggest Fan]

ESPN Radio just said one of the teams interested is the Spurs, and supposedly "The Pacers want Oberto and Barry"


If thats all they want?


Damn. Do the trade.


Barry=Hot Dog
Oberto=Coke


Do it Pop.

Can a third team be involved maybe??? -- Which would end up us getting Malik from NY and NY getting Artest???



Anyone??? is it possilbe

[TDMVPDPOY]

artest on the spurs will be dangerous, imagine bowen and artest on the court at the same time, we will have teh best backcourt in the league

[T Park]

Which would end up us getting Malik from NY and NY getting Artest???

Malik is not coming back.


Move.
ON!

[exstatic]

The most dangerous enemies are those within your own walls. There is no scenarios that I can see where we don't win this year...except Artest gone bad.

[T Park]

I think Pop could controll him though.

Look at all the situations hes been in.

Has there been a dominant leader/authority figure like a Pop?

Someone to lay the smack down?

Carlisle is a pansy, and Pacer management supported his actions in the past only making Artest go nuttier.


I think Pop could control him.

Think of

Duncan
Artest
Bowen
Ginobili
Parker


Name me a team that would score on that lineup.

[exstatic]

I think Pop could controll him though.

And you're willing to bet the next several years on it? Piss off Bruce Bowen, the man that has given everything to this club, and done everything they've asked...the anti-Artest? Somebody has to sit.

I just think at some point, you have enough players to meet your needs, and anything else will only cause Portland like troubles, especially when you are going after players who lack character.

[T Park]

Piss off Bruce Bowen

How would it piss him off??

You dont start Artest.

You bring him off the bench.


Brent Barry is bringing jack .

Oberto is wasting oxygen in the arena.


This trade makes way too much sense, if there is a modicom of truth behind it.

[exstatic]

How would it piss him off??

You dont start Artest.

You bring him off the bench.

Have you been reading ANYTHING about why Artest wants to be traded? He's not even happy STARTING for a Conference contender any more, not even as the #2 option. He wants to be the MAN.

Call me crazy as Artest, but I think he goes Nuclear with Barry minutes.

[T Park]

Give it a shot.

If it dont work.

You Keyshawn him.

[exstatic]

The earliest his contract can end is in '07, and that would have to be his choice. You deactive him, maybe he decides to collect all of those Benjamins for the additional years. God knows no one else will ever give him another big contract. He would be impossible to get rid of at that point.

That's a huge chance and a lot of money for a player with a ty track record of being team oriented, or even sane, for that matter.

Why would you take any chance of ing up this team?

[Warlord23]

exstatic is right. For all Barry's shooting woes, he did give us a few quality minutes vs the Suns and the Pistons. And Oberto is insurance against injury to our bigs.

Artest was the 2nd option after JO in Indy, and managed to lead the Pacers in scoring for several games. Now he wants to be the first option ... how's he gonna adjust to splitting time with Bruce, Manu and Finley for the 2 swing spots?

Anyway, I don't think Ron is the kind of guy you want to rely on for leadership and responsibility in the playoffs. His version of leadership is swinging his fists. The Spurs have a pretty good combo of talent and veteran leadership. The best case here is that Artest adds some incremental punch to an already strong squad. But the worst case is that he spoils team chemistry and is then benched for the rest of the season ...at the cost of 2 not-so-talented but reasonably good roleplayers who are also good teammates. I have no doubt that we'll need Barry and Oberto at some point in the playoffs.

[TDMVPDPOY]

This seems a better trade to me

barry+nazr+any srcub player not name udrih for artest n foster

[T Park]

he did give us a few quality minutes vs the Suns and the Pistons

A few minutes here and there is a joke.


Is this the extent everyone has gone to defend this overrated Silver Star?

[Warlord23]

Far from defending Brent Barry, I'm simply questioning the wisdom of getting on board a player who wants to be the first option on offense. Whereas we already have a 2-time MVP, an all-star who performed as well as the 2-time MVP in the 2005 Finals, and a point guard who's having a breakout year. Are you suggesting that the Spurs try to experiment with playing Ron Artest as the 4th option, immediately after he's quit on the Pacers, the stated reason being he was unhappy being the 2nd option?

Barry and Oberto may not be worth too much, but what we'll get in return might well turn out to be even less valuable.

[SilverPlayer]

Has Boozer been mentioned in any of the Artest Rumors? Utah and Indiana might make a great 3-4 team trade with those two pieces.

[ducks]

"O'Neal said he had two candidates in mind: his former teammate and best friend, small forward Al Harrington, whom the Pacers traded to Atlanta in 2004, and Sacramento's Bonzi Wells, whom O'Neal said he liked for his defense over the Kings sharpshooter Peja Stojakovic."

[ducks]

Lakers interested in Artest
December 15
Los Angeles Daily News: "The Lakers - and coach Phil Jackson, in particular - have strong interest in acquiring troubled Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest, a source close to the team said Wednesday."

[ducks]

Knicks Not in Running for Artest's Services

"Isiah Thomas made a perfunctory inquiry about Ron Artest yesterday, but the Knicks are not aggressively pursuing a trade and, for that matter, will not make any deal that costs them any of their promising young players."

[ducks]

Celtics Not interested in Artest
December 15
Providence Journal (scroll down) (registration required): "Ainge was asked if he would ever take on a player like Indiana's Ron Artest , who has requested a trade. While the former Defensive Player of the Year is a gifted player, he also comes with baggage, and Ainge said his young team doesn't have a strong enough personality to successfully integrate someone like Artest."

[leemajors]

artest would be a great influence on kwame brown.

[ducks]

Toronto Sun: " You can add Toronto to the list of rumoured destinations for Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest. A rumour making the rounds last night had the Pacers badboy and second-round pick Erazem Lorbek going to the Raptors for Morris Peterson, another roster player (potentially Matt Bonner) and a first-round pick."

[leemajors]

he is not going to a contender, that is for sure. think hawks, raptors, or any other cellar dwellers.

[ducks]

I think he is laker bound

and rumors are the lakers have offered odom

odom is by far the best piece pacers will get for him