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How knowledgable of any thing O'Reilly says to know that 60% of it is crap can he possibly be if he admittedly never watches his show? How did he come up with 60%? That's not sarcastic, it's stupid.
He didn't have lack of knowledge, he was being sarcastic because Bill is making issues out of nothing. If anyone knows Dave, they know he was being sarcastic, he always says things like that.
How knowledgable of any thing O'Reilly says to know that 60% of it is crap can he possibly be if he admittedly never watches his show? How did he come up with 60%? That's not sarcastic, it's stupid.
If he watched it (like me) he'd know the % is much higher
^^^ exactly
Way to change the subject businessman.
Sounds like Pete Jennings, where is our President, where is our
President. He should be in Washington at times like these. Give me
a break. What was he suppose to do, get up, run in circles and
scream: "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" run for cover, protect
yourselves.
Or maybe, jump up, run out of the building get in AF1, go to New
York and direct the rescue operation.
Give me a break, you silly bunch of twerps.
^^^ exactly
Right. But he hasn't, so how can he profess to know anything?
You could sit there and say all day long that what I cook is 60% inedible, but since you've never tasted my cooking...what you say really doesn't mean , does it?
I have never been to a Joel Olsteen sermon
but I would venture to say him and his outfit are full of
chode regulator has never rubbed me off
but I dont think i would want him too because i wouldnt like it
And by you saying that, would you consider Joel Olsteen to have been owned?
What would suggest to you that he & his outfit are full of ? How did you reach that conclusion? Pull it out of your ass? If that's the case, then I can definitely see how you would agree that O'Reilly got owned. Dave had no factual answer for how he came to that conclusion, either. Your negative feelings about opposing political parties and because you don't like him and/or what he says in and of itself doesn't make him wrong, or make what he says "60% crap." For one thing, how the did he come up with 60%?
And how do you know if chode whatever rubbed you off that you wouldn't like it? You're just assuming you wouldn't because he's a guy.
Just like Dave was assuming Bill was full of crap because he's a conservative.
Last edited by SpursWoman; 01-07-2006 at 05:56 PM.
January 8, 2006
Many Ready to Spar With Bill O'Reilly
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 4:15 p.m. ET
NEW YORK (AP) -- If Bill O'Reilly truly loves a good fight, then he's had quite a week. The Fox News Channel personality's confrontation with David Letterman Tuesday night made for some gripping television. The cranky ''Late Show'' host told his guest: ''I have the feeling about 60 percent of what you say is crap.''
That same night, nemesis Keith Olbermann on MSNBC once again named O'Reilly his ''Worst Person in the World,'' this time for battling with two people at The New York Times. That's the 15th time O'Reilly has been cited since Olbermann began his half-facetious, half-serious nightly ''award'' to wag his finger at bad behavior.
For whatever reason, it seems more people are willing to step into the ring with the host of cable TV news' No. 1 program.
But they'd better beware. Combat may be as essential as oxygen to him.
O'Reilly has already logged many minutes on his TV and radio shows to talk about what he called his ''shootout'' with Letterman, and posted a video clip on his Web site. He gave a telephone interview to ''The View'' to say that he didn't feel ambushed.
''I had no problem with the interview,'' O'Reilly said. ''I enjoyed it.''
The interview began poorly -- with an uncomfortable silence after O'Reilly said he had ''a nice winter solstice'' -- and went downhill. Letterman disagreed with O'Reilly's contention that de-emphasizing religion during the Christmas season was an example of political correctness eroding tradition.
''I don't think this is an actual threat,'' Letterman said. ''I think that this is something that happened here and it happened there. And so people like you are trying to make us think that it's a threat.''
They jousted over peace activist Cindy Sheehan, who O'Reilly said has referred to Iraqi insurgents as freedom fighters.
''It is a vitally important time in American history,'' O'Reilly said. ''And we should all take it very seriously, and be very careful with what we say.''
Responded Letterman: ''Well, and you should be very careful with what you say also.''
Letterman said he was ''very concerned about people like yourself who don't have nothing but endless sympathy for a woman like Cindy Sheehan.'' That's where he issued his content analysis of ''The O'Reilly Factor,'' although he admitted he didn't watch it.
On O'Reilly's TV show the next night, Fox News analyst Juan Williams likened the segment to a knife fight. ''In some sense, it's like someone inviting you into their house and you find out you've been invited by, you know, John Wayne Gacy,'' he said.
A high-profile confrontation like this solidifies O'Reilly's relationship with his fans, said Martin Kaplan, an associate dean of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Southern California.
''He lives and breathes attention and combat,'' Kaplan said. ''If he were to go on a friendly venue, there would be no story. It's made in heaven for him to be in a fight with Letterman.''
O'Reilly has been atop the cable news ratings for four years. His average nightly audience increased from 2.42 million in 2004 to 2.49 million last year, although his ratings dropped among viewers younger than 55.
Kaplan said he believes O'Reilly's Christmas campaign may have backfired on him. ''In TV sitcoms,'' he said, ''they call that `jumping the shark.'''
During an interview with Newsday's Verne Gay in October, O'Reilly sounded weary about the scrutiny of his critics and their attacks. He even mused about retiring in a couple of years.
For the past 18 months, the liberal Web site Media Matters for America has assigned a monitor to O'Reilly's radio and TV shows, and alerts critics to alleged misstatements. And Olbermann regularly tweaks his time slot compe or, particularly since starting the ''Worst Person in the World'' segment last June.
''He's writing this material for me,'' Olbermann said. ''I'm thinking of sending him a check. Day after day he just gets weirder and weirder and weirder.''
Olbermann said he's thinking of holding fire a bit lest it seem like an obsession. While he's not a watchdog in a serious sense, Olbermann said that ''it's important to me that you provide an alternate perspective to whatever the elite is in a given field.
''I look at them -- they're clearly the popular clique, led by the bullies in the school -- so if you get an opportunity to point out what stupid thing has been said or what moronic action has been encouraged by them or simply when they have fallen all over themselves in relation to the facts, you should do it,'' he said.
Olbermann pleads innocent to being holier-than-thou because of his show's willingness to point out its own mistakes. ''I'm sure I will eventually make the list,'' he said. ''I will be one of the worst people in the world.''
He may already be, at least at Fox News Channel's office. O'Reilly, who didn't want to talk for this article, has referred to Olbermann -- although not by name -- as a ''notorious smear merchant'' and pointed out his low ratings. (Olbermann's typical audience is about one-sixth of O'Reilly's.)
Network spokesman Brian Lewis was even more pointed. ''Perhaps (NBC Universal chief) Jeff Zucker should think twice about tying his future, not to mention the reputation of (parent company) General Electric, to an unstable ratings-killer like Keith, who uses an NBC property for his personal attacks,'' he said.
Who will have the last laugh?
It's worth noting that nearly 2.7 million people -- about 200,000 above last year's average -- tuned in to watch ''The O'Reilly Factor'' the night after he went toe-to-toe with Letterman, according to Nielsen Media Research. O'Reilly's younger viewership was up 20 percent over his December numbers.
O` Reilly is a stuck up a hold. But he kinda feeds of bad press. It's like his crack.
Letterman just gave him too much free advertising. Dave is hardcore... even if he has become a fascist leftist commie anti american bas ...
He's still wields a lot of power in hollywood circles....
He's on message from the left...
Like I said previously, if you knew Letterman and His comedy, you would know that he always talks that way and is sarcastic alot of the time.
Whether Dave watches Bill O'Reilly or not, Bill spewed his trash about a "War on Christmas" ON Dave's show.
On Dave's show, Bill O'Reilly talked trash about Cindy Sheehan. So watching Bill's show wouldn't be a neccessity to know that what he says is "crap".
Dave could make that assessment based on Bill's comments on His own show. Dave even told him that there is nothing threating going on, but there are people like Bill who want to make make people believe that there is.
60% is just a number he made up as he does when he's being funny or sarcastic about most things. 60% would actually symolize that more than half of what Bill says is crap. I agree with that and I do watch Bill and I would say the percentage is much higher.
First I have to agree with Uncle Donnie that I didn't see any "owning". Second, I think Dave did a discredit to himself to say he has never watched the show, and then proceed to critique it. Much like all those who bashed Michael Moore's movie without seeing it, in a high profile situation like that interview, ignorance only does you a disservice. I'm sure Dave could TIVO an episode of The Factor before having Bill on much like he views an episode of any actor's program before they come on most of the time.
Bill, to no surprise, favors Republicans as does FOX News. He also jumps onto causes that tick him off and run with it. Some you amy disagree with, some you may agree with. For example, right now he is going after a Vermont judge who sentenced a man to 60 days of prison for raping a six year old for the past 4 years, along with the Republican Governor and other politicians who are dragging thier feet on responding to such a verdict.
But back to the point, being "owned" should be more than making a soundbite and having an audience just cheer and applaud you. That is schoolyard fighting complete with the ooohs and ahhhs of a crowd of children standing around watching.
Like I said previously, if you knew Letterman and His comedy, you would know that he always talks that way and is sarcastic alot of the time.
I've watched Letterman for years. Sarcasm doesn't change the fact that he was criticizing something he never even bothered to watch. Why does that seem so difficult for you to understand?
Why does it seem so difficult for you to understand that Dave disagreed with what Bill was saying on Dave's show itself?
Well, I do understand that Dave disagreed with what Bill said on the show. But he also disagreed with Bill's show and made comments on that show which he said that he had never seen. Dave is an entertainer who doesn't have a direct obligation to provide us the news, but he booked Bill as a guest and I would have expected Dave to watch an episode of Bill's show like he does for actors and actresses that come on the show. He doesn't have to, but it makes for better conversation to have an understanding of who you are having on the show.
I mainly just disagree that Bill was "owned" because Dave says he is 60% full of crap. If Bill had Dave on his show and said that would we have a thread led "Dave Letterman got OWNED on O'Reilly"?
We may diagree, but I just think Dave made him look dumb by acting like "What's the Big deal to all Your madness" type of at ude. That Bill was making a big deal out of nothing and I agree with that.
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