Bush broke the law

[SA210]

Why would he have ? -according to his predecessor - he was not a priority?

So much not a priority, that Clinton had meetings on Bin Laden every week, FACT. He just didn't catch him. More than what Dubya can say.

he was not a priority?

Better ask this guy. And this is AFTER 9/11 what a moron Bush is.

the 7 minutes?? is this you Michael Moore?

Does this comment change the fact that it happened? I don't think so.

[ChumpDumper]

well since he admitted it is similar in effect to a conviction

Since it's not a crime, no.

Look, the whole blowjob impeachment was a last gasp by neocons who couldn't pin anything else on Clinton they had spent millions of dollars investigating like Whitewater. Everyone saw that it failed to reach the level of high crimes and midemeanors and the trial was a miserable failure for Bill's opponents.

As for Bush? He's either a liar or has tremendously bad judgment. I'll believe either one at this point.

[SA210]

I say Liar and has tremendously bad judgment.

[implacable44]

So much not a priority, that Clinton had meetings on Bin Laden every week, FACT. He just didn't catch him. More than what Dubya can say.


WELL IF HE WAS so important to Clinton - then why wasn't he given any importance at all in the papers Clinton gave to Bush ? What got lost ? Maybe he pardoned him along with all those other criminals he pardoned when he left office ????

Better ask this guy. And this is AFTER 9/11 what a moron Bush is.


He might pick both of them - being that Clinton let him try to sink the Cole and blow up the WTC without any reciprocation.

Does this comment change the fact that it happened? I don't think so.

who cares? what would you have done ?

[implacable44]

Since it's not a crime, no.

Look, the whole blowjob impeachment was a last gasp by neocons who couldn't pin anything else on Clinton they had spent millions of dollars investigating like Whitewater. Everyone saw that it failed to reach the level of high crimes and midemeanors and the trial was a miserable failure for Bill's opponents.

As for Bush? He's either a liar or has tremendously bad judgment. I'll believe either one at this point.

Your choice. I just thank the Lord everyday he was in the White house on 9/11 instead of Al Gore or William Jefferson.

[smeagol]

Both Clinton and Bush are liars.

What else is new?

[implacable44]

Both Clinton and Bush are liars.

What else is new?

and they both apparently have bad judgment - see Lewinsky .....and hillary

[SA210]

who cares? what would you have done ?

That's your rebuttal? I'm not the President, but I know Clinton would've gotten his butt up. As much as You hate him, it's true.

I thought Bush set a record for not reacting to a crisis when I saw his seven minutes lost in space, He proved me wrong when he stayed on vacation for four days.

[ChumpDumper]

Your choice. I just thank the Lord everyday he was in the White house on 9/11 instead of Al Gore or William Jefferson.

Sure didn't help the victims that day either way, did it?

[implacable44]

That's your rebuttal? I'm not the President, but I know Clinton would've gotten his butt up. As much as You hate him, it's true.

I thought Bush set a record for not reacting to a crisis when I saw his seven minutes lost in space, He proved me wrong when he stayed on vacation for four days.

you mean he would have gotten up from the desk - kicked monica out and done.......nothing just like after '93 and just like the Cole ?

[implacable44]

Sure didn't help the victims that day either way, did it?

It helped the nation. You can think what you want about him Chump - I think a different way. You aren't gooing to change my thought process nor am I going to affect yours. It is good to discuss and entertaining but we see the world in different ways.

[SA210]

It is good to discuss and entertaining but we see the world in different ways.

[implacable44]

exactly -- that is what all us conservatives want - world domination - the empire.

[SA210]

At least one of u is honest, somewhat.

[implacable44]

At least one of u is honest, somewhat.

no you got it all figured out rocky -- all conservatives want the world to be subject to us - which should fit right in with your socialist - liberal plans because then we will take care of your lazy, slothful nature and make sure you really are a victim like you pretend to be and that is why you need to government to take care of you. see - just conform brother and we will both get what we want

[SA210]

[implacable44]

thats it man - get on board.

[SA210]

[implacable44]

exactly -- only minorities - and don't forget how he blew up those levies to kill more minorities -- oh but that backfired and more white folks died.

[SA210]

[implacable44]

State of LA. - Has a governor and a mayor responsible for it's people - both dropped the ball and both know blame the feds - had bush stepped in immediately - they ( and you) would have been all over him for grandstanding and usurping authority over the states - See how the Hurricane was handled in Texas ? The governor.

[implacable44]

ouch I just stubbed my toe - It is the governments fault that I stubbed my toe and someone must pay.

[Oh, Gee!!]

State of LA. - Has a governor and a mayor responsible for it's people - both dropped the ball and both know blame the feds - had bush stepped in immediately - they ( and you) would have been all over him for grandstanding and usurping authority over the states - See how the Hurricane was handled in Texas ? The governor.

you didn't credit your source.

[SA210]

[boutons_]

heavens! Congress is finding their check-and-balances balls?

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January 6, 2006
Report Questions Legal Basis for Bush's Spying Program
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
and SCOTT SHANE

WASHINGTON, Jan. 6 - President Bush's rationale for authorizing eavesdropping on American citizens without warrants rests on questionable legal ground and "may represent an exercise of presidential power at its lowest ebb," according to a formal Congressional analysis released today.

The analysis, conducted by the Congressional Research Service, an independent research arm of Congress, is the first formal assessment of a question that has gripped Washington for the last three weeks: Did President Bush act within the law when he ordered the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans?

While the Congressional report reached no bottom-line conclusions on whether the program is legal or not, it concluded that the legal rationale appears somewhat dubious. The legal rationale "does not seem to be as well-grounded" as the Bush administration's lawyers have suggested, and Congress did not appear to have intended to authorize warrantless wiretaps when it gave President Bush the authority to wage war against Al Qaeda in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks, the report concluded.

Bush administration lawyers quickly took issue with the report's conclusions, arguing that President Bush acted within his cons utional and statutory powers in approving the N.S.A. program.

"The president has made clear that he will use his cons utional and statutory authorities to protect the American people from further terrorist attacks," said Brian Roehrkasse, a spokesman for the Justice Department.

(Bull . The warrantless domestic spying is part of head's anti-Consi utional, Executive-branch power-grab agenda. )

"As the attorney general has stated numerous times, the National Security Agency activities described by the president were conducted in accordance with the law and provide a critical tool in the war on terror that saves lives and protects civil liberties at the same time," Mr. Roehrkasse said.

But many Democrats and some Republicans said they found the doubts raised by Congressional report persuasive, pointing to it as another indication that President Bush may have overextended his authority in fighting terrorism.

Thomas H. Kean, the former chairman of the Sept. 11 commission, said he too doubts the legality of the program. Weighing in for the first time on the controversy, he said in an interview that the commission was never told of the operation and that he has strong doubts about whether it is authorized under the law.

Federal law under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, created in 1978, "gives very broad powers to the president and, except in very rare cir stances, in my view ought to be used," said Mr. Kean, a Republican and former governor of New Jersey. "We live by a system of checks and balances, and I think we ought to continue to live by a system of checks and balances."

Opinions on the N.S.A. domestic spying issue have broken down largely, though not exclusively, along partisan lines, causing public rifts between the top Republicans and Democrats on both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees.

But the analyses of the Congressional Research Service, part of the Library of Congress, are generally seen as objective and without partisan taint, said Eleanor Hill, who served as a Congressional staffer for 17 years and was staff director of the joint Congressional inquiry into the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

"My experience is that they're well respected in the Senate and House," said Ms. Hill, now a Washington lawyer in private practice. "I don't remember anybody attacking them for being partisan. They're more academic in approach."

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